I've said it before, but I really don't get the GTA VI hype. The last Grand Theft Auto game being released over a decade ago isn't any guarantee that the next one will be amazing - Duke Nukem, Metroid, Overwatch and Star Fox are examples of that. Also, anyone who's been paying attention to the direction Rockstar games has been going for the last 5+ years would be pretty worried about how this game will actually turn out. A lot of stuff that used to be earned with in-game currencies in GTA online are only buyable with real money now. Their employee track record is horrible... Hearing about Rockstar not producing discs for their game doesn't surprise me. Maybe GTA VI will "crash the industry" and all the things these YouTubers are saying, but it would be on status alone at the moment, not because we know this is going to be a great game.
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If your only metric is "long dev cycles bad", then yeah this looks bad because you're comparing games stuck in development hell to a game that has demonstrably had like 8 years of real dev time. Additionally, it's not like Rockstar have put out stinkers in the past. every GTA game I've ever played has been a fun single player experience. I can't imagine R* nuking the billions they've spent developing their game and the goodwill they've gathered in the past. Are there going to be scammy bullshit things in the game? Sure. It's literally impossible for them to raise money from investors if they don't put it in there. But if it's another game "only" just as good as GTA v, it will sell incredibly well and be worth the up front money.
These comments that try to make Rockstar look or sound bad never work, lol. Comparing amazing single-player games like GTA V or RDR2 to Overwatch 2 or Star Fox? What? That is like pointing to different movie directors to try and argue why a talented popular one is going to fail. It's so goofy. They are completely different teams of game developers with a track record of delivering.
The stuff you're missing out with GTA+ is incredibly meaningless. They are more cars and garages, who cares? You don't need them to enjoy 99.9% of the content Online, which are missions and heists you can do with your friends right now. You don't need the cosmetics. Same with Overwatch 2; that sequel was awesome, because the game became free for everyone to play, and right now they're being very generous with the amount of skins they give to Free Players; you can pretty much get 2-3 legendary skins every 2 months if you play for a few hours a week, no need to grind too hard. Those who hate Blizzard for the scandals, who are still blaming the entire team for the actions of a few, they are not morally superior. Those things don't define everyone that works there, not all the artists and developers deserved the harassment and death threats they received.
All gaming companies' employee track records are horrible. Crunch is everywhere. There's Bungie, Ubisoft, Microsoft, CD Project...
The fact you can't see the massive milestone something like GTA VI is for Humanity or art, is just so disrespectful. GTA 6 will be the closest thing we have to a real-life sim, not just because of the graphics, but the overall system of making a massive city feel alive and that good in a screen, with 2026's hardware limitations which are still significant for this genre of game. So many tried, like Watch Dogs or Cyberpunk, but they failed. As a software engineer, Rockstar Games are still some of the best technical achievements the Gaming Industry has, regardless of how greedy they are, the content you get for 60-80$ is already insanely good.
And trust me, I hate Rockstar for introducing the MK, for GTA+, for their content being too repetitive too: drive to point A, kill bad guys, steal something, drive to point B. FarmVille-type of farming drugs or cars to sell, time-gated, just to make a few thousand in-game currency and buy a car that feels the same to drive as any other. That's probably how most of the Online content feels in both. They feel like a Mobile game in that regard. Even then I can still see the massive value in this new game and the hype is so damn easy to understand, I am so tired of seeing these comments, bro. I once saw a kid say he was more excited for Deltarune than GTA 6. It doesn't make you cooler, smarter or special to say something big and trendy like GTA 6 or a Christopher Nolan movie like Odyssey which is getting a lot of similar flak from people who want to sound profound. It just makes you look like a pessimist contrarian. There is valid criticism in everything, but come on, man. Come on.
Bros over here with his pepperoni nipple and opinion like we give af
You gave enough of a fuck to reply to it. Go take you reddit ass behavior and NPC one-liners back to that Jeffrey Epstein Class supporting website you belong to
You sound like a piece of shit
I was just told that nobody should give a fuck about my opinion just because I went into detail about why the hype for Rockstar Games is fair. Dude didn't even add anything of value to the convo, just insults, like you are. And now the guy is singing about being "Jeffrey Epstein's boss" below you. Cool friend you got there. I am so jealous
Bro talking like he doesn't realize I'm Epstein's boss
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Wait, do ppl really believe I'm
That would be funny
I don't know who that is though
They are playing me
It's not good enough to be true
I am just a dummy!!!
I could never do what you due
Literally the only reason to get the physical on this is if it's cheaper. Which is entirely possible in the UK, because retail often goes £5 cheaper.
They could at least put a printed map or poster in the box like in ye olden times.
Or they could give you a disc and all of that like they used to
From what I understand, for GTA 6 it would be more like 6 discs. But its not like the discs cost them a fortune either.
Your telling me it’s 600 gigs…
A disc? In this economy?
A map? That sounds like DLC.
What's the reason for no disc? Is this another one of those 'you buy it but you don't really own it' things?
Allegedly it's because Rockstar doesn't want leaks, which strikes me as a very stupid reason. So fucking what if gameplay is released a week early? If anything it's free advertising.
They'll try to gaslight you abiut how the game is too big to fit kn disc's, but the real reason is to prevent aftermarket sales. I'm sure they see every used game sale as lost revenue.
Well that sucks.
Those same stores have likely happily sold physical cases for PC games containing nothing but a Steam code.
PR posturing.
I was so annoyed when I went to a midnight release of Fallout 4, stood in line with loud teenagers, got my disk, got home, and there was a fucking code in it.
(No hate on the teens having a nice time with their friends, but I would not have entered their space if I knew there was no benefit).
That's odd, my Fallout 4 was on a disc for PS4. Did you get it for PC?
I got it as a disk for PC because I had an incredibly slow and metered internet connection. It turned out to not even have half of the game. I had to pay I think $90 to download it. And then I hated the game
Yes.
I'm not familiar with Loot Box Gaming, but VGP does not sell pc games.
"Security measure to not leak the game"
Entirely BS. How has the entire games industry existed before then?
Can we also talk about how they're locking full on content behind the ultimate edition? Not just some cosmetics, but the actual shops you'd go to in game to customize your character. In a single player game. That's fucked.
It's enough that I'm not getting the game. I can wait for PC and we'll see if they release it as a full game rather tham carve it up. This is just an excuse not to have a $100 base price so they avoid that backlash while they effectively have it for the full game.
Remember when you bought a game and it was yours?
Remember when you unlocked things in game through completion and achievement?
Remember when you bought a game you got the whole game, not 70% and access to a storefront?
Fuck AAA gaming man. I feel sorry for the devs and artists who work so hard on a game only for executives to slice it up and smear the goodwill the game had by attempting to be predatory and parasitic capitalists.
Fuck the billionaires.
The decline:
1: Games come in physical cartridges/discs in boxes in a store, included will be a user manual and sometimes special booklets with world maps or posters.
Special editions come in fancy or metal cases, special colour variants, figurines and other trinkets.
Expansion packs are released that add between 80-150% the amount of content as the origional game.
2: Special editions start coming with lower quality physical items and less often. Expansion packs start getting replaced by DLC packs, which are usually good value for money and add meaningful content to the game.
3: Games start shipping with less content and less testing as DLC's become more about bug fixes and adding content origionally planned as main release content.
4: Special editions consist basically just of a couple unique character skins or weapons whith no real lasting perks.
DLC starts becoming rediculously expensive and underwhelming as shitty value for money.
Loot boxes and similar mechanics start preying on gamers with the same underwhelming content.
5: Games can be bought physically, but you install on a console/PC and it gets locked to your account, no sharing the disc with friends.
6: Multiplayer is moved to almost exclusively online only with no couch co-op for the vast majority of games. Online multiplayer only accessible with platform exclusive access subscription.
7: Games are sold as digital download only.
8: Games are downloaded but only sold as a subscription access.
9: Games are subscription only, but the game runs on their server and you just get the display stream feed + all inputs go back to the server to control the game.
10: You dont play games, you watch AI models play against each other whilst wearing VR headset, you dont enjoy it much but at least with the VR headset on you cant see the destruction outside your bunker since the climate change food riots.
Hope is on the horizon, apparently an indie dev is releasing a new version of tetris you will be able to play by actually pressing buttons yourself, 2035 is starting to look better after all.
Lol, haven't bought physical in years. Means nothing to me. Digital for life
Digital until they take it away from you having already got your money.
I remember buying GTA V on disc and then having to wait an entire day for the day 1 patch to download on my slow ass rural bumfuck ADSL connection. Disc or no, if it has online activation it ain't yours.
there are no discs anymore, once agin this has been a trend for 10 years now, people dont know this, cause they dont buy physical versions.
I'd prefer if there was though. I'd be quite happy buying a game that requires 6 discs. It costs them less than a dollar for each disc, the greedy fucks.
Retailers should know that selling this is a poison pill. If no disc launches become the norm, then retailers will no longer serve a purpose in the industry.
They've been trying to kill the second hand market for decades and this release is the biggest threat to it yet.
[for consoles] if it doesn't have a disc, i won't pay more than $5 for it.
unless it's stardew. then i'll buy it for every system.