Yes remember when Ubuntu apt repositories got DDoSed by a bot farm behind cloudflare, then cloudflare suggested to Calonical to just use thier protection? Remember kids use Cloudflare or else!
https://www.webpronews.com/cloudflares-dual-role-in-the-ubuntu-ddos-crisis-protection-or-pressure/
This post is currently top-1 when sorting by controversial. Objectively amazing bait.
I want to upvote and downvote this post.. it's so controversial
They have a shitty way to be useful.
I would personally go with just downvoting. I can use discord again now so I'm not mad at cloudfare anymore.
I mean, you aren't wrong 😅
One more head of Hydra. Espionage System built by the big techs
I hopped in this thread then shortly thereafter got redirected to a cloudfare bad gateway page. It's a conspiracy.
don't listen to the nerds, cloudfare is trying to steal your soul and sell it to the Big Capybara industry.
Hey, I know it's been two years, but remember how embarrassing this was!
Cloudflare is having some weird issues with Discord this morning.
I'd claim it's the other way around until proven otherwise. Configuring the edge is not for everyone
O.o Do you understand what Cloudflare actually does?
Provides a single point of failure for a large portion of the internet that nobody else has any control over?
Oh no, centralising DNS and CDN traffic which are critical for the web and the internet into a single company is a bad idea?! Who knew!?!
So no, then.
Well no but I heard other people say it's bad and give some half reasons why. Why do I need to understand the tech if I just want to be mad about it? /s
Fr though cloudflare is a giant, but they give some hardcore protections to little guys like me. If they ever were bad to me I'd switch to akamai or something. Plus if we're going to talk about monopolizing the web let's talk about Google, Azure, and AWS.
just don't use cloudflare if you dont like it and its not a single point, like they have tons of servers all over the planet
Using cloudflare is more reliable than using your own stuff which is still an option that nobody chooses anymore because it's better to choose cloudflare or something similar.
I'm going to go ahead and assume you don't work with internet security in any way, have no experience in web development, and have never attempted to provide web application services to more people than you can count on your fingers, but if you had, cloudflare is mana from heaven.
This persons main connection to the internet is hentai.
Just... save your braincells.
While that can indeed be considered an issue, the idea that this somehow makes the internet objectively worse is debatable.
there is no debate i am always correct :)
That is an objectively untrue statement.
you are an objectively untrue statement
Literally trying to figure out if Cloudflare or tailscale would be the best way to go. The memes have spoken
Don't use memes to make decisions I'm just mad I can't use the discord app on my desktop, can't download manga from nhentai without jumping through hoops anymore, and have to solve 5 captchas in a row when I use a vpn which is all the time.
Cloudflare is excellent, this post is nonsense.
203 upvotes, 202 downvotes. The most controversial lemmy post I've ever seen
I feel like I'm making history. A real end user vs tech people conundrum.
A "people who know what cloudflare acutally does" vs "people who found the meme funny" conundrum.
Throwback to when 1.1.1.1 dropped and we all loved couldflare
Not all of us.
You're trying too hard
What ever bud, y'all aren't trying hard enough. I've been on the fuck CloudFlare train for ten years. Centralizing surveillance SPOF can eat a bag of dicks.
Honestly, I don't know how any end user who doesn't understand IT and wasn't around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don't have the information or experience to make the claim.
I've been using the intermet since 2003 and have seen no difference except when cloudfare breaks.
I've been using the intermet since 2003
Then you should remember this: https://youtu.be/48rz8udZBmQ
rude
You are very difficult to respect.
Your respect is very difficult to care about.
That's the thing about not respecting you -- I don't value any of your opinions.
Being so willing to pontificate about something you know so little about, I don't think any one will value your opinion in this thread. At least, they shouldn't lol.
Yes, the internet is much bigger than it was in 2003, and it needs more complex protective tools. The fact that you haven't noticed cloudflare when it is working is a sign that it is, well, working.
And the fact that your favorite sites aren't down more often is yet another sign. Downtime due to DDOS attacks alone would be so much greater without cloudflare than downtime due to cloudflare currently is. Your perspective is a pure lack of knowledge and an excess of confirmation bias.
In before they start hating on aws.
Have you ever self hosted a website? Was that a modern website, or just a bunch of text? Are you experienced with uptime SLAs on multiple services? Have you ever had to deal with a DDOS attack?
There are lots of things that Cloudflare does that requires experience and knowledge to notice or understand. And it isn't even the biggest single point of failure when it comes to the Internet. When AWS has an outage for instance there is a huge chunk of the Internet that goes down.
There are problems with the centralization of the Internet. But this happened for a reason, and it has been so long and these services have been so reliable that people don't even realize what it was like before.
I can answer that for you! No. They have never self hosted a website. In fact, I doubt they have ever connected to a website via any protocol beyond http/https. I'd bet a paycheck on it.
Cloudflare is solving some really big problems, right? Like DDOS?
As someone managing the site, no. It's an unfortunate necessity like locks on your doors