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I used Mullvad for a long time, but hearing about one of the two CEOs actively supporting and financing swedish Nazis, I'm looking to put my money elsewhere. That's the second one after Private Internet Access (who supported Gab).

I had AirVPN and Surfshark being recomnended, how do people here feel? What do you use?

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[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It’s like picking an airline. No matter who you choose somebody has a story of how they’re varying degrees of awful.

I’m on Proton. I disliked when that one guy made that social post comment about how Republicans are easier to deal with. I’m not offended enough to roll the dice with another provider only to later discover they’re literal nazis, their founder has Epstein connections or they discriminate against trans people.

(Which is to say, if you want to switch from Mullvad I get it.)

[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

nice windscribe reference there

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 3 days ago

I agree that any provider is going to have something awful about them, but you can't just conclude that supporting this type of thing is fine because everyone is awful.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Go to torrentfreak.com They solicit info from various VPN companies, plus report on them when they make the news.

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I really like Proton. It's fast, it's good.

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[–] LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I had SurfShark years ago but really do not recommend them. Constant problems with all traffic just stopping and then I had to call someone up to cancel my subscription as there was no option online.

Switched to AirVPN which I don't see talked about much but it's great. The Android app is looking a little dated (the icon in the app drawer is in a tiny circle because they have added support for adaptive icons still) but functionally I can't complain.

[–] atkion@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

+1 for AirVPN. I'm a little worried of what happens if it becomes more mainstream (see what happened to mullvad and their port forwarding features), but they're rock solid and still support port forwarding for p2p. They also do good black friday sales every year, you can get a steal on the 3yr package around that time.

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[–] katinahat@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I’ve been using Windscribe for 10 years and have been nothing but impressed. Always surprised they don’t get mentioned more in these posts.

[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago

I have seen them mentioned here, not in a good way though

My own limited experience with them was crap, and I wouldn't trust them, doesn't mean i am right though.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 3 days ago

Looks good.

Not assholes. Wireguard support. Port forwarding et cetera.

[–] rsky@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Been using PIA for over a decade now. I started with them by paying with a random gift card I had laying around (Walmart maybe?) and have been paying with crypto ever since. They've never asked for any personal details (used a burner email address) and the service has been solid the entire time. Clients on Windows and Linux both work great and are open source with pretty decent documentation. In short, sometimes I want to reliably remain anonymous online and it has worked out well for me.

I know that a lot of people here hate on PIA but I haven't seen any justification. So if anyone here knows why I shouldn't be using the service, I'd love to hear about it; I'd be happy to switch to something else if it works at least as well.

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[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 11 points 4 days ago

PIA is owned by Kape, which appointed someone from Project Raven as a CIO

[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago (11 children)

It's Mullvad. This whole thing, in my eyes, overreaction to one asshole being an asshole, and not anywhere near as bad as so many other assholes.

That's my opinion, you're 100% valid in voting with your wallet and I respect everyone that draws the line here.

For me, though, Mullvad is the only one worth their salt if you actually want the best of the best for privacy, and there's no ethical consumption under capitalism so this feels like an exercise in futility.

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