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This would convince me to smoke death sticks tbh (lemmy.ml)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml to c/memes@hexbear.net
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Lavender cigarettes sound fire though

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 54 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am convinced China will one day create the healthy cigarette. Smoking culture there is still exploring freedoms Americans can barely remember. Chinese pilots were just banned from smoking in the cockpit in 2019, and that was because some idiot ruined everyone by tuning off the cabin circulation so he could vape.

I am assuming he did this so the rest of the plane wouldn't find out that he was huffing cotton candy instead of the sweet and smooth taste of the best flue cured golden tobacco Yunyan has to offer.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Herbal cigs already exist

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Those arent really better. Its the breathing smoke that does the most damage

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Breathing smoke is generally bad, yes, but it also depends on what's in the smoke. Someone breathing campfire woodsmoke is not the same as someone breathing in smoke from melting plastic

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Campfire woodsmoke is super super toxic as well, plastic is worse but wood is hardly a clean burn wither. There are differences but that between tobacco and whatever herbal cigarettes are around us pretty minimal. Ive seen this used as a pro weed anti tobacco thing as if they're mutually exclusive, yeah weed is less bad for you than tobacco but inhaling combusted carbon will always be really fucking bad for you regardless. No one is intentionally smoking fire wood or plastic

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

i'm not disagreeing, merely adding the context that there's varying degrees of harmful things. The relative level of carcinogens is relevant, and some things combust in very toxic forms. All smoking is going to be harmful, but the degree to which can vary like one hundred fold. Hookah for instance is WAY worse for than you than smoking weed via a bong, it's not even remotely close.

Humans have lived closely around campfires for hundreds of thousands of years. Obviously it may have shortened our average lifespans in terms of lung cancer, but it's not quite the same as people who are involved in a single extremely toxic fires without respiration protection - or even those who have to live next to toxic polluting factories. They can get diseases or die from a single exposure or within a matter of months.

[–] gila@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The preposition was that China would create cigs that are healthy

Lighting something on fire and inhaling the concentrated free radicals resulting from its combustion is fundamentally unhealthy

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

I'll glaze China as much as the next gay but there comes a point where it is just ridiculous

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Campfires are smaller. A factory that just burned wood for no reason would have nasty ass emissions, so scale comes into play there. But yeah, there are like...super toxic fires and sorta toxic fires, there are no nom toxic fires.

Didn't know about the hookah thing, why is thst worse? I have heard stoners over extol the virtue of water filtration via bong cause theyre stoners and are dumb.

The other major aspect to consider when choosing between cigarettes and smoking other stuff is that cigarettes are a drug and herbal cigarettes arent. So if you're smoking herbal cigarettes you're just breathing smoke cause you like the smell. You're still doing the majority of the harm and not getting any of the fun.

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Both Hookahs and Bongs use water-filtration which doesn't really do too much other than cool down the smoke, which actually is worse because then you can hold it in your lungs longer and with deeper breaths. The reason Hookah is dangerous is because it's combusted Tobacco but cooled, so it's all the bad things of cigarettes with no filter and vastly higher volumes held with deeper breaths for longer. Nobody holds cigarette smoke in a deep breath, but they do for Hookah/Weed.

I was comparing like-with-like to demonstrate that weed smoke is vastly less toxic and carcinogenic than tobacco smoke is, by order of magnitudes. Combusted Tobacco just has more carcinogens and tar. It's just a more harmful substance when inhaled via combusted smoke, objectively.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24836469/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8479631/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5896480/

https://pip.missouri.edu/Hookah/

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

Less harmful is still only relevant before a certain threshold. Weed also gets you high, unlike an herbal cigarette. I smoke cigarettes and joints, im smoking both at once rn cause i'm in flavor country. But there is a major major difference between 'if youre gonna smoke something weed is better than tabacco' and 'it's okay to smoke some stuff' and then two are often conflate or exaggerated by potheads, of which I am one but I will also totally smoke Crack if offered as well

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 25 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Nah, I need full flavored, full nicotine, and completely healthy. Herbal cigarettes are marketing, I need a scientific solution.

[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the addiction without the cancer

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I believe in the dream of the people.

[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

with gacha mechanics and cute anime girls in each cigarette box

[–] livestreamedcollapse@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago

Matcha-Dubai chocolate-flavored cigarettes with Labubu characteristics

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago

Gacha mechanics and anime girls working together to hold up the sky.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, the nicotine itself is also poisonous and will lead to arteriosclerosis, peripheral neuropathy, and other conditions. It’s part of why I quit

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 8 points 4 months ago

This will also be addressed by the Chinese scientists. I believe in a post-scarcity world and I believe in that world we will have nicotine that is good for you. Denying my dream and the dreams of the people is reactionary, counterrevolutionary, and just mean.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

I remember that is what they marketed vapes as back in the day.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Good luck on your quest rat-salute-2

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 19 points 4 months ago

I have faith the scientist of China will find the solution before they ever give up smoking.

[–] microfiche@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago

Flavored lung darts. At least the cancer goes down easier.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad I quit smoking for the pouches, it's still nicotine, but at least I don't feel like my lungs are on fire and I'm dying half the time, lol

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I need to quit smoking weed. No surprise but uh the indoor air quality monitor i got, literally one puff inside and the air quality is 500+ for a good bit

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but watching that smoke swirl the air is nice aint it. I wish I could still smoke in the house. My last apartment was gonna be demolished after I moved out so I could do whatever I wanted. It was great.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

I remember blowing smoke rings back in the day...

sicko-wistful

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dry flower vapes kick so much ass, it's crazy.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The maintenance has been a bit much in the past but maybe it was just my particular vape

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

I have a handheld one that you just plug into a USB-C to charge and has replaceable glass mouthpieces. The only maintenance whatsoever is periodic cleaning of the mouthpieces, which is much easier than cleaning a whole bong

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

We have a Mighty and a Volcano Hybrid, both from Storz und Bickel, the only maintenance we have to do is just to dissolve reclaim from the water pieces.

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

Like the other user said, start vaping dry bud. Way less strain on your lungs, way less smell, way less smoke

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[–] loweffortname@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure it's just a translation issue, but "every single bite" is...something to say about a cigarette alright.

[–] Meh@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why buy lavender-flavoured cigarettes when people smoke actual lavender? Still horrible for your lungs, but it's quite a lot cheaper

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Cause nicotine.

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 19 points 4 months ago

yeah all that "fragrance" is where all the "vitamins" live.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

Long ago a friend of mine quit smoking by moving over to herbal cigs (no nicotine) and lavender was one of the main herbs in them. Just did a quick search and found these:

https://puffherbals.com/products/sleepy-cigs

So nic-free herbal cigs are definitely an option for anyone seeking something different.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I already have my brand

[–] Big@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Each hit is a shotgun blast to my lungs, but god damn I love being a rebel

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

chainsmoker cat

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[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

if this ever comes to the u.s. i will instantly retvrn to being a 6 pack a day smoker

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I remember rainbow lucky strikes when I first got into smoking. Each one had a different flavor. They were awesome.

[–] calidris@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

Is the filter 2/3 of the cigarette like the ones in the fifth element? I always wondered if something like that would actually be made

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Packaging says Alishan which is a taiwanese brand, no one in the real China would smoke this flavoured bullshit

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