Are there any flies buzzing around?
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Clone myself.
Send clone through teleporter to pull lever.
360 no scope snipe the imposter clone motherfucker.
Claim credit for saving people.
Is cloning that much faster than running to the lever? Do you also keep a cloning machin always handy on you?
The teleporter is basically a cloning machine
If you teleport the people off the tracks then you can kill them all while still taking credit for saving them.
The Trolly Problem of Thesius
The salesmans trolley problem of Theseus if you try to find out first how to get everywhere efficiently.
Doesn't it depend if the teleporter open a up a wormhole or used replication?
You’ve shed and replaced every atom that you were made of when you were born and many times over since then, are you still that same entity?
Yeah, but you didn't shed them all at once. If the ship of Theseus exploded, and then they built a new one, the question wouldn't be, "Which is the true ship of Theseus?" it would be, "Hey, did you guys see Theseus' new ship?"
How many components have to be changed all at once for it to be a new ship?
If all but one of the planks is new but one of them is from the original ship is it still the original ship, if not then how many planks from the original ship need to be included in the new ship for it to be the original ship?
Look at it's like that. If you change out one part at a time, everyone considers the ship the same.
Change many components at once and what you hear? "It's practically a new ship!".
Here, Ship of Theseus solved by instinct and linguistics.
I'd say that it's a matter of timescale, very little if anything of the initial version of the USS Constitution is part of the current version of the ship but id consider it the same ship just version whatever because it was slowly replaced over a couple hundred years. It's the side effect of "living" objects, though if there is one old ass ship that is 100% immune to the Ship of Theseus it's the Vasa.
It’s all just abstract philosophy on a non-reality scenario, I’m just having fun with it.
On a heavily relative note, though, has anyone watched Space Dandy? The show about a dandy guy in space?
Shit like this always remind me of the videogame SOMA.
Have had that game in my library for years, maybe I need to play it
You should. It's incredible. Just realize it's a walking sim. If you're okay with that then def play it.
Yeah that's fine, Death Stranding was amazing too and that's mostly a walking sim aswell
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Depends if teleportation uses TCP or UDP
Time to post Existential Comics again
I hate this comic. Your alarm clock is proof that you don't truly lose consciousness in the way this comic implies when you go to sleep.
Yeah, it's a weakness in the comic, but you can fix it by imagining being frozen (in a sci-fi way that doesn't form I've crystals that kill you) then thawed.
You'd awake just like from sleep and there would have been a period of true nothing in between.
Did you die and a new you was woken up? I say there is no “true you”. There's a body having your memories and behavior, thinking it's you and that's all that matters. There is no magic piece that actually gets loost when you get frozen or teleported. A you enters, a you leaves, so nobody died and nothing is lost.
There are no souls, there is no magic continuous bit that gets handed over to the next moment, there just the pattern, so as long as it persists, you are alive.
If it's jot you then the question becomes, are you willing to commit suicide so a reasonable facsimile of you can save some strangers.
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Define "you." An identical collection and pattern of atoms and subatomic particles? Then yes. A continuous consciousness as experienced by the "me" on the entry side of the teleporter? No.
Would I kill myself to save five lives and create one? Yes
There is no way to know that were not constantly dying and being replaced. The experience of continuity may be an illusion because you don't notice that you're only alive for a split second, and replacing the consciousness that was alive a split second before you.
I say there's no rational reason to assume you aren't constantly “dying” and being replaced by next moment's “you”.
Okay? That's all well and good, but there is a way to know that a transporter does kill you. Given a choice between maybe living or definitely dying, I'm gonna choose the former.
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