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If you're not familiar with the LEGO scandal, the tl;dw is that this YouTuber Reckless Ben (Ben Schneider) has been investigating a stolen set of LEGO worth ~$100-200k (depending on who you ask) and the local police dept and criminal justice system has been colluding with the criminals (all members of the local Mormon church) to get him to STFU. The long version is, very long. You can check his channel for more.

Previously the local police dept managed to get a warrant to raid Ben's rental home with guns drawn and arrest him, based on what is clearly fabricated evidence. Here they appear to have done it again to get access to his Google account.

The linked video is mirrored on Peertube and timestamped to the relevant section.

Ben does also provide a copy of the subpoena in the video but I cannot vouch for its' validity, and he has used placeholder evidence before, but that's neither here nor there.

Anyway, the part that was relevant to this community was that in the course of their investigation they subpoenaed Google, and Google handed over basically his entire life to them. I'm sure this was very useful in their investigation.

I don't necessarily blame Google here for complying with a subpoena, but the moral of the story is to stop giving Google your data, because everything you say and do can and will be used against you in a court of law, with or without legitimate justification, and the more stuff you give them, the more ammunition you're providing the prosecutor.

This is also not exclusive to Google. Anything not local, self-hosted or encrypted a la Proton can be subpoenaed and the provider will have to comply. It just so happens that Google probably has more information about literally everyone in the world than any other particular entity.

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Never let yourself become dependent on something a company has control of, if at all possible. They will use it as leverage to coerce concessions from you that drive you further toward controlling nothing at all.

We could all use a "Live without technology" day where everyone lives intentionally without using technology owned by others, learn first hand where those liabilities and leverage are in our lives, the cost of loss of access, and the alternatives. We are far more likely to accept enshitification of everything if a loss of access suddenly causes a crisis we've never encountered before. Awareness is a strength that would be wise to cultivate. If you can't go one day without tech, you're already told dependent and tbh, a threat to the community and people around you.

[–] ljosalhusky@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago

Thank goodness we're finally safe, everyone! I feel so incredibly safe I can barely sleep at night — partly from relief, partly from the faint red glow of the dashboard camera evaluating my facial expressions for signs of independent thought. Remember when driving was about getting somewhere? Now the car watches you, the road watches you, the toll booth photographs you, and somewhere an algorithm decides whether your blinker-to-lane-change ratio indicates sufficient loyalty to remain a licensed citizen. And those anti-distraction cameras! You're no longer trusted to glance at a road sign without the system assuming you're filming a TikTok. The camera knows. The camera always knows. And the camera, unlike you, never had a stressful Tuesday.

I also adore the financial supervision. Every coffee I buy with my card is lovingly noted and stored in case someone - anyone - someday needs to review my caffeine patterns for national security purposes. Two espressos before 9 AM? Possible instability. Four beers Saturday? Risk factor. Thirteen emergency Toblerones during tax season? Irrefutable character assessment.

My phone tracks my location so faithfully I couldn't match its dedication if I tried. It knows I went to the pharmacy Thursday. It knows I took the scenic route Friday. It probably knows I stood outside the bakery six minutes deciding whether to treat myself and walked away empty-handed - proving to whichever algorithm monitors such things that I possess both self-discipline and poor decision-making skills simultaneously.

Facial recognition cameras mean I no longer suffer the indignity of walking through a city anonymously like some 2003 peasant. I'm identified, timestamped, and filed - because a free citizen moving through public space unnoticed is clearly a missed opportunity for database enrichment.

But here's my absolute favorite part. All this magnificent safety infrastructure - every camera, every log, every database, every tracking system - it's all in the hands of whoever happens to be in government this season. And governments change. Today's well-meaning bureaucrat administering your data with careful oversight is tomorrow's populist demagogue who noticed you donated to the wrong cause, attended the wrong protest, and Googled the wrong thing on a Tuesday afternoon. Maybe you were researching a school project. Maybe you were just curious. Doesn't matter — the search history doesn't care about context, and neither will they.

And the beauty of the pitch? Nobody ever said "we'd like to watch everything you do forever." They said "safety". One word, carrying all the weight, answering all questions, and conveniently foreclosing further discussion. Safety from what? Don't worry about it. Who controls it? Interesting. Can you influence it? Adorable that you'd ask. The safest person alive is someone in a padded cell under constant supervision. Magnificent safety record. Very low satisfaction. But completely safe - until the warden changes.

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

IIRC The Civil Rights Lawyer from Audit the Audit is helping him out. Shit is fucked if it has his attention. Hope it turns out ok.

[–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

For a series of incidents that have gathered international attention, it interesting to see the police and legal system double down on corruption. It like internationally advertising how crooked the cops are and how corrupt the legal system is to everyone. Do you want tourists to never visit? Because that is how you get tourists to not visit.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

most people are sadly not paying attention

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Most people are still 'nothing to hide nothing to fear' and I know some people close to me that insist that ICE and Trump are only going after the worst of the worst.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 hours ago

the people who understand what's going on have figured out that what the regime means is "brown people are, as a group, the worst of the worst." the people who don't understand that are more vulnerable to believe that the face value is the truth

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Am I wrong or is $100k not even money enough for how big this scandal has been?

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Expect it to become more common.

[–] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

If someone out there still thought the cops was the good guys, this is mainstream enough that its going to open some eyes to the belief that all cops are bad cops.

We've been saying how corrupt police are and how they are like a gang that sticks up for themselves first and foremost. Now the youth get to experience that second hand in a way that the public can't confuse them about race issues or make it about issues anything other than what it is.

I know its stupid for reckless Ben to not use a lawyer but this way we get to see straight up every avenue they use to try to abuse their power.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What was the value of the Lego collection in this scandal? 200k? It's wild just how far people are willing to go over what's ultimately not even enough money to retire off of, and only a couple of years' living expenses in some cities

[–] artyom@piefed.social 17 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Sounds like they've been successfully getting away with this sort of thing for a long time. So in the long run, probably way more money.

[–] Decency8401@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Sooo sounds like the perfect time for Proton or any mainstream service to sponsor him.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, Proton has a long history of quietly complying with subpoenas

I think Hetzner+Tailscale+Nextcloud might be a better solution

[–] Cornballer@lemmy.zip 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Proton doesn’t have anything to hand over except maybe an ip and billing info. That’s why design matters.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What makes you think a court can't order them to modify the site/client to capture your key and send it home?

[–] aspensmonster@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What makes you think a court can’t order them to modify the site/client to capture your key and send it home?

There's already precedent for this. The FBI leaned on Lavabit to serve compromised code to Edward Snowden. Lavabit closed up shop instead.

Can read more here, which makes the case that "web-based cryptography is always snake oil": https://www.devever.net/~hl/webcrypto

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

I'm pretty sure proton has already gone on record stating that if a court ordered them to start keeping logs for a specific account then they have to comply.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

Lavabit closed up shop instead.

Surely proton would do the same... /s

You can't trust a corporation to keep your data secure. They can hide it from your ISP at best.

Crypt your stuff with your own keys and store it in places where you own the client. Convenient security is rarely secure

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Hetzner blocks outgoing ports for emails

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

Not email, storage, nextcloud. If they requested my emails for anything, they'd be horrified how boring they'd be. it's literally just spam

[–] Iambus@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Brick by brick!

[–] Reborn_Mormon@lemmy.world -3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, is this what's going to happen to me in my support of the Mormon Church by forming the cult of Mormon Occultism? Whatever. I expected this twelve years ago when the CIA contacted me, covertly, on an acid trip. Hard to explain, but I have, thoroughly, in my book. But the goal of my mission now is truthtelling, and somehow I knew there would be a lengthy legal battle with "a church" in my future during my fateful acid trip where aliens revealed themselves to me. Hard to explain, but I portray it poorly deliberately because that helps the dazzle camouflage. We know what we're doing. But, I had an experience with the Mormon Church. God, who is that organization of three letters that's always watching, told me to keep on keeping on. Staying silent while screaming. Has anyone ever tested you were a pedophile? It's weird what the Mormon Church prophets from. I'm a master baiter. I'm a fisher of men, I said. I'm a cop, I said in my last post, but the silent don't even read this far.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Reborn_Mormon@lemmy.world -3 points 11 hours ago

Go, go gabba gotcha!

Man, all I want is to non-sexually explain my strangeness in development, that the average prude would assume is sexual by default. I lost my "mom" five times, alright? I'm a little weird. Can I talk about this stuff to heal skillfully? Asking the gods here...

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The lesson here is not to trust Google or other non-encrypted storage with your stuff. There are email providers that are more protective of your stuff, but more than that: don't store everything in one place. That way if one account is compromised, not everything is exposed. And American companies are more likely to share your data than European ones.

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[–] BouteilleBrune@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

it would seem their whole legal system is as corrupt as their government

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Just as an fyi, if you'd self hosted your services, they would probably subpoena you, and you would be obligated to give them all your data from your own server, and if you'd refus, your be in deep, deep shit

It doesn't matter where you store data, if it's stored, it can be used

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago

"Well boys I sure hope you can get in to this because I lost the password ages ago I remember it was a set of 15 random words with capitals in random spots but just can't remember the order..."

Then your lawyer gets to tell the jury that you complied.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And that’s where good encryption comes into play. At least in the US, (where this case is happening), they can compel you to turn over the encrypted data blob. But they can’t compel you to give them the password to access the data. Because forcing you to give up the password would violate your 5th amendment right to remain silent.

Also, they probably wouldn’t subpoena you and give you a chance to respond; they would just bust your front door down and take your server. You wouldn’t have an opportunity to peacefully turn the data over to them. Only the wealthy get subpoenas. The rest of us get no-knock search warrants, dead pets, (because cops will shoot any dogs that are present when they execute the warrant), and traumatized/injured/killed family members who happened to be home at the time.

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