FreedomAdvocate

Did you watch the video? There’s no way that it was just “user error”, nobody randomly swerves into a tree when nothing’s there.

You're assuming that he was paying attention and driving normally. He could have dozed off and pulled the wheel.

All I'm asking for is evidence to support his claim other than "trust me bro".

Tesla gives out beta access to users, so I wouldn’t put too much weight on that claimed version they were using.

As others have pointed out, that version wasn't out to regular people on that day.

It all points to a guy who crashed his car and has now seen an opportunity months later to get his 15 minutes of fame. Why didn't he post about this in FEBRUARY WHEN IT HAPPENED? Why did he not reach out to tesla in the last 3 months? It just doesn't add up. He has provided zero evidence that FSD caused this.

The link I gave you is the place he posted this. And you can see what version he says he was using:

What he says is what's questionable though, because he says he was on 13.2.8 but that wasn't available to the public at the time of his crash. Being on the beta channel means nothing, he still wouldn't have gotten it because it wasn't available on the beta channel on that day.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaFSD/comments/1ksa79y/1328_fsd_accident/mtlj5ki/

So you are parroting bullshit, the current version is 13.2.9.

How am I parroting bullshit? The current version is 13.2.9? Great - has nothing to do with what I said.

Funny how people in the thread I linked to you, who drive Tesla themselves don’t question this?

Some of them did, because he says he was on 13.2.8 which added different camera recordings which aren't available on his car. He clearly didn't know this when he lied to say he was on 13.2.8, because if he was on it then these recordings would have been there. Reddit being reddit, and the internet being the internet - people lie. Most of the people in there claiming that their teslas tried to do the same thing are likely 12 year olds who've never driven a car before. Don't believe everything you read on the internet, ESPECIALLY on reddit lol.

Also if you haven't realized, hating on anything tesla/musk related is the cool thing to do at the moment, especially people on left-leaning sites like Reddit and Lemmy.

Some people believe the FSD saw the shadow of the pole as a curb in the road, or maybe even the base of a wall. And that’s why the FSD decided to “evade”.

Cool, doesn't mean they're right. The FSD saw shadows of poles and trees and power lines all the way up to that second too. Well it would have if it was engaged.

To me it seems you are the one who lacks evidence in your claims.

My claim is that it wasn't using FSD because he has provided ZERO evidence that he WAS using FSD. I'm the one asking for evidence to support the claim, and he has provided NONE. Remember - I'm not the one making the initial claim. I'm the one asking for evidence to support the claim.

Even if I was the one that needed to provide evidence, I have done so - lied about the version. No interior footage to prove it wasn't driver error. Didn't reach out to tesla about their car trying to kill him.

And problem with Tesla logging is that it’s a proprietary system that only Tesla has access to, that system needs to be open for everybody to examine.

Tesla have a program you can download to review your logs supposedly.

It also means that he couldn't have been on version 13.2.8 which he claims he was on though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaFSD/comments/1ksa79y/1328_fsd_accident/mtlj5ki/

My point in saying he didn't reach out to tesla is that if I owned a car that drove itself off the road into a tree, I'd reach out to tesla and ask them to investigate and see what they'll do for me for almost killing me. Insurance is a completely different story, they'll go and do their thing regardless.

He never claimed it was recent.

Did you not even read my post? Literally THE FIRST SENTENCE OF MY POST IS THIS:

Also this happened in February.

The part of mine that you misunderstood as me saying it was recent was, I assume, this:

He never requested the data to show that FSD was engaged? In that thread he says he only just did it.

Again, you misread and misunderstood - a common theme with you apparently - me saying that he only just requested the data from Tesla as me saying "he only just crashed the car". The quote you posted of the guy literally confirms what I said - that the crash was in February and that he only just requested the data lol

You are so full of shit, I just checked it out:

Every claim you make you never provide sources, because you are probably just parroting hearsay.

Care to apologize?

So they're still communist countries? No? Why not? Sounds like it was a utopia.

Is that a fact? Are you sure? Will you recant if it comes out that the police did, in fact, plant it?

Did you just take those 2 words completely out of the context in which they were written? You sure did! I said:

All they’re doing is drawing attention to the fact that it was his gun by not denying it was his and trying to get it excluded from evidence.

I'm saying that they're essentially confirming that the gun is his by this action. Learn to read.

Myself, I’m not going to jump to “why bother having a trial? The police arrested him; he’s clearly guilty as sin” based on a Lemmy comment!

Neither am I, nor am I saying anyone else should.

Stop defending billionaires, they don’t care about you.

I'm not "defending billionaires", I'm correcting misinformation and rubbish. Of course Gabe doesn't care about us, I never said he did.

Just because he is a billionaire doesn't mean that he exploited, underpaid, or stole from anyone. He's a billionaire because he created the only fish in a huge pond that everyone throws money into hand over fist. Like I said, he could be paying everyone there a million dollars a year and he'd still be a billionaire because he OWNS the company. It's not a publicly traded company, it's private. He owns it.

They’re also raking in money on all these games that are also being made on the backs and labor of underpaid workers

That's got nothing to do with him. He built a marketplace and tools for people to distribute and use in their games. The working conditions of people making the games that are then sold on his marketplace has nothing to do with him.

You're not the person I replied to lol

This is something that I've really been thinking about lately as I get older and my kids start to grow up. I've got 60TB+ of digital data, including all my families history of photos and videos digitized which are backed up to 3 separate cloud services, onenote filled with information, password managers filled with logins and details, etc, along with my Steam/Xbox/Playstation/Epic/GOG/etc accounts with 1000+ games on them.

I'm tempted to make a website/app to try and tie it all together in an easy way tbh.

The fact that he is a billionaire does not mean that lol. He’s a billionaire because his company gets a cut of every sale of games on his platform, and his platform is the industry standard/default platform for digital distribution. He could be paying his employees a million a year to be a janitor and he’d still be a billionaire, no “stealing” and not one being underpaid.