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The issue here is that people have no problem admitting that tall individuals have an advantage over shorter ones in basketball - but when someone points out that trans women may have an advantage over biological women in terms of strength and speed, those same people suddenly come out of the woodwork, calling it a lie or transphobia.

If instead they acknowledged the advantage but still argued for inclusion, then at least we’d be agreeing on the facts - and the discussion could focus on how to level the playing field. Blanket bans are rarely the optimal solution, but neither is a free-for-all.

The best data is from military recruits, and there are a couple of recent studies, one published in 2020 and one in 2023. They looked at cis men, cis women, trans man and trans women. How many steps you can do in a minute, how many push ups you can do in a minute, and how fast you can run 1.5 miles. And what they found in that study was that trans women remained faster for up to two years after the initiation of gender affirming hormone therapy. At four years, trans women continued to do more sit ups and push ups.

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You can also google endless examples of trans athletes breaking women's records. Don't lie that it has never happened.

The best data is from military recruits, and there are a couple of recent studies, one published in 2020 and one in 2023. They looked at cis men, cis women, trans man and trans women. How many steps you can do in a minute, how many push ups you can do in a minute, and how fast you can run 1.5 miles. And what they found in that study was that trans women remained faster for up to two years after the initiation of gender affirming hormone therapy. At four years, trans women continued to do more sit ups and push ups.

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What is the problem if trans women take all the records?

By definition that then means that if you are born a woman then you can forget all your dreams about becoming a competitive athlete because those roles are reserved for the ones that were born a male.

The best data is from military recruits, and there are a couple of recent studies, one published in 2020 and one in 2023. They looked at cis men, cis women, trans man and trans women. How many steps you can do in a minute, how many push ups you can do in a minute, and how fast you can run 1.5 miles. And what they found in that study was that trans women remained faster for up to two years after the initiation of gender affirming hormone therapy. At four years, trans women continued to do more sit ups and push ups.

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A women’s competition is held and a trans woman wins. What’s the problem?

It's not but once we start seeing a trend of the winners and record holders being trans more often than not it starts becoming a problem. It's not fair for the biological women.

The best data is from military recruits, and there are a couple of recent studies, one published in 2020 and one in 2023. They looked at cis men, cis women, trans man and trans women. How many steps you can do in a minute, how many push ups you can do in a minute, and how fast you can run 1.5 miles. And what they found in that study was that trans women remained faster for up to two years after the initiation of gender affirming hormone therapy. At four years, trans women continued to do more sit ups and push ups.

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People like me?

Your claim was that this applies to most, but not all trans women.

I made three claims and you called it all made-up facts.

1. Men have a significant advantage over women when it comes to strenght
2. and speed
3. and in most (but not all) cases this applies to trans women as well.

also interested in hearing what you think the exception is

It would be a statistical miracle if every single trans woman was stronger than every biological woman. I'm confident in claiming that most are but I'd never claim that there's no exceptions. Depends on many things such as biological diversity, how long ago they transitioned and what drugs they're taking just to name a few.

They called my claim that men have a significant advantage over women when it comes to strenght a made-up fact so I backed it up with evidence as requested.

Hand-grip strength of young men, women and highly trained female athletes

The results of female national elite athletes even indicate that the strength level attainable by extremely high training will rarely surpass the 50th percentile of untrained or not specifically trained men.