XLE

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[–] XLE@piefed.social -1 points 3 weeks ago

@ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world, my question was simple: do you have a reason to make the assumption Linux developers will succeed.

Instead, you've jumped to whataboutisms, misdirections (Linux exists, therefore...?), even trying to shift the burden of proof back onto the skeptic.

If you can't back up your opinion with evidence, say so from the beginning.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Scary press release... But how convenient this company is warning about a threat that they promise to solve.

[–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No, I asked why anyone would assume Linux developers would get anywhere with AI, looking for anybody with a legitimate reason and not baseless speculation.

(Attempted burden of proof shift.)

[–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If your claim is baseless, don't fight to make it.

[–] XLE@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

What about Android...?
Sure, what about Google?

Do you actually have a reason Linux will be able to pull off using AI when Microsoft cannot, or is your sole argument that Linux has done other things? Because that's not how proof works.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 56 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Looks like the account is reinstated. Good to know that's how to reach human support there: be Literally Paul McCartney.

The posts are gone, though. I hope this was the decision of McCartney or his team. Reddit doesn't deserve him.

[–] XLE@piefed.social -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

(Edit: Invalid comparison and misdirection.)

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm sorry if I was unclear the first two times I asked, but when I said:

care to link me to all these great models from academics and open-source institutions?

I was interested in the models you're currently using, not the ones you're speculating about. Hopefully it goes without saying that "open" weights are precompiled closed-source blobs, and "Open"AI is anything but, etc.

I'm aware new models are trained at the speed of light and hardware is going obsolete faster than it can be put on racks, which is already a problem, so I would love to believe your theory about inexpensive AI GPUs but those very same companies are already going into debt without selling their current stock.

Edit: we have a reason to not assume GPUs will suddenly become cheap.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

@ikidd@lemmy.world @ ingeanus@ttrpg.network do you two have a source for these supposed great models?

[–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

Before we spin into a tangent about theory and "what ifs" etc, care to link me to all these great models from academics and open-source institutions?

Because right now, the only companies I see making advancements in "AI" are burning through obscene amounts of cash, with no end in sight.

And there is no evidence the cost of inference is going down, and even Anthropic admits training will continue burning resources.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Leaking? Microsoft basically owns OpenAI. They pull the data in and don't need it to go out. The whole industry is fighting to close off competition, meaning they know they're on top.

So do you have any reason to assume the open-source community's use of these (closed-source) other models is somehow bucking all real-world evidence to the contrary, or are we just hoping and praying?

[–] XLE@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

Just assuming this is all true (i.e. that AI can do good and bad code outputs), why would Linux development be able to succeed at something that Microsoft (which has an insider track with AI, far more money, and far more maturity) failed at?

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