YawningNostalgia

Omg if I were you I'd be talking everyone's ear off about this, that's wild

The article is kinda shit and gives no information but usually there would be multiple eyes on the patient. You have at minimum the rotating nurse (not scrubbed in,) the scrub tech (sterile and knows every step of the operation,) the anesthesiologist or CRNA (wouldn't have a good view of the site), and a resident or PA assisting. There would have been eyes on the patient, which is what makes it so confusing. Maybe the surgeon was intimidating and nobody felt they could speak up against him?

https://www.namd.org/journal-of-medicine/3293-surgeon-removed-liver-instead-of-spleen-family-says.html This article is better than the one in the post but doesn't answer the big question, which is how many people had eyes on the patient?!?!? It's difficult for me to believe that a surgeon with experience could make this kind of mistake without inebriation being a factor. The article describes the organ removed as "grossly" obviously a liver, grossly in this case meaning you can see it with your eyes and don't need special tools. I can't imagine making this mistake and I'm not even a surgeon I just went to med school. Absolutely insane case and I wonder how many other people this doctor harmed.

Totally agree and this has been discussed a lot. We learn about the Swiss cheese model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_cheese_model, I've read The Checklist Manifesto, we talk a lot in med school about listening to nurses and scrub techs and pharmacists...it goes on.
I've sat in on a lot of morbidity and mortality rounds. If there's an adverse event it's reviewed, and yes it can be very embarrassing for the people involved. We had a breast cancer patient who needed more exploration involving the axillary lymph nodes and an artery got nicked and vascular had to be called, and the next day she was bleeding significantly and had to be brought back to the OR with me, as the med student, holding pressure on her armpit. She lived. A few days later both attending surgeons (breast and vascular) had to do the Morbidity and Mortality in front of the whole hospital, and it felt like a movie.

This should be investigated exactly how you said but there is no way that surgeon was sober. Unless the patient's anatomy was crazy weird, there's no way that was an honest mistake.

I got permabanned for saying I didn't think an actor was good. I have noticed that within the past few days, at least for me, it's been accessible on mobile. I still like looking at what people are yapping about but I wish I could weigh in.
I've also been banned from Hinge so it may be a me problem loll

Love that but I don't think it works anymore. It definitely used to and I'd say the goofiest things

Ah ty will check it out

Sounds like everywhere now:(

I told my friend about it and he reacted poorly because he thought I was being transphobic. I have absolutely no beef with people choosing what they want to be called.
My issue was that they were making accessing necessary healthcare more difficult and virtue signaling via recorded message by saying they care about our pronouns.
I would have thought my friend I've known for a year would know I was trying to make a more nuanced point about capitalism and enshittification and I wasn't saying that trans people should be disregarded. Actually quite painful to see that he saw me complaining and heard trans and went straight to bigotry.

I gave it pronouns that haven't been invented yet

I tried to get a person by saying PERSON REPRESENTATIVE and then all the curse words because in the past that made them get you a person sooner but nah. I'm sure I sounded insane and if the recording ever comes out I'll have a really hard time arguing that I'm not actually homicidal. Oops

!aibeingstupid@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Ty. We need to build up these communities so there's some actual discussion going on. I just joined this site and we need to pump it up imo, when communities barely have posts it's hard to get anything going

Would be a good approach if it were a cafe or something but it's the doctor and I kinda need em lol