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The conceit you exude is thick, brother. I'll try not to talk longer on this, because I agree with you on the point that we won't agree.

Tribalism is something that I do not want to participate in. I want to participate in giving a chance to those who present a potential goodness. That said, I do not believe in mindless trust. Let Mamdani try, and see what he can do, but do NOT believe the smokescreen the establishment kicks up against anybody who might go against the grain of the elite. Sure, he could have already sold out. Or, he could be playing smarter and trying not to nuke his chances to change things before they are presented.

The point is to let him get into office and observe what he does rather than speculate on maneuvres before he can even affect change.

Don't give me that wide brush bullshit. Quiet submittal is not what I mean, and to stop giving one a chance is to completely torch the idea of shared humanity. The idea that Mamdani 'sold out' before he has even had an opportunity to disappoint is the height of defeatism, and to tar those who attempt to lead with the feathers of the evil say anything politician is an exercise in pre-emptive concession.

Reality is more nuanced than than quoting historical figures from a different time and social situation. Spreading the message you've spread, we may as well never trust anybody ever again who tries to help and captures hearts and minds.

History doesn't repeat, it rhymes, but we don't have to feel stuck in the same verse.

He ain't even mayor yet and this fearmongering bs is in the works. You know They are scared.

You seem deeply affected by them caring now and not before. Are you worried they will convince him? If not then they will eventually see it worked itself out and stop caring. If not, well they aren't involved in your relationship so what do they matter? Not everybody will like you, it's wasted energy to try and make that the goal.

It sounds like you have a lot of hurt wrapped up in this and I am sorry for that. Men are people. A lot of alt right men were led down a path by people who cared, because others did not and told them they were the opressor and enemy when in reality they were lost and without social connection. Men do not get socialized in the same way women do and beating on them like this rather than offering a hand in help is what led to this exact thing.

You also sound young as well as full of energy on this topic. You are losing the human perspective in favor of us versus them politics. You are perpetuating it.

Please think about what you are doing, I don't think me debating you further will lead to anything.

Sincerely a leftist white man who loves all people and wants us all to get along and support one another.

Where do you get that statistic? You were given a second chance. Tons of people who commit infidelity get second chances for various reasons. The problem is it is a very personal betrayal that pushes a lot of people emotionally. This has nothing to do with men specifically, only that they don't want to see him hurt. You don't either, right? So you are really on the same side.

I support a month for both men's mental health and LGBTQ pride, but the positioning of both is a bit hamfisted and could be read into maliciously.

Fact is though, if we do not support men in some way, the alienation turns them into enemies. I would much prefer an ally to support, no?

Past experience. Past knowledge. The more often than not correct belief that people don't really change. If the norm is that a cheater is always a cheater, and you see a friend who was hurt by a cheater get back with them, it is only natural to warn that friend.

Simple as that really. I wish you luck getting through it, but if you truly feel there is no chance of a repeat performance and your bf believes you, why care about well intentioned warnings?