Metalheads: look like the bottom, act like the top
mosiacmango
joined 2 years ago
Vates is pretty chill, as is clear in the article. I think your point is well said, but Vates likes the "vibe" of FOSS, and is willing to take a bit on the chin to keep that energy internally. A bit of "turn the other cheek." They also clearly enjoyed the whimsy and just straight panache of being ripped off in this manner for a while. Their company is doing well and growing rapidly from an excellent product, so I doubt the money mattered much.
Well, even Jesus started kicking ass at one point with the money lenders. It looks like they are getting there now.
Vates spun up xcp-ng off the xen hypervisor and created a great "vsphere" like management plane called xen orchestra. Its a fantastic hypervisor with vsan/built in backups/etc. With vmware self immoliating after selling to Broadcom, they are an ideal stand in for vmwares primary product. Their licensing costs are wildly reasonable, even before the vmware debacle.
They have gone from "a guy" to a 100 person company in the last few years while sticking by the FOSS ethic entirely. You can build the project from source, or even grab a few github scripts that build it for you. They have always been open and clear about letting you build it and use it however you like.
They know how to cut this abusive behaviour off. They are fully capable. They don't want to use those tools, legal or technical, because it goes against the spirit of FOSS, even if it's to stop someone else who is abusing the spirit of FOSS.
Being good people, they are using "name and shame" first, and are even so kind as to leave the "name" part out for now. I expect that they may make some changes down the line if the org, and maybe others playing this same game, dont play nicer.
Perfect? Who said anything about perfect data? I said actually fact checked data. You keep movimg the bar on what possible as an excuse to not even try.
They could indeed build models that worked on actual data from expert sources, and then have their agents check those sources for more correct info when they create an answer. They don't want to, for all the same reasons I've already stated.
It's possible, it does not "doom" LLM, it just massively increases its accuracy and actual utility at the cost of money, effort and killing the VC hype cycle.
That's how they work now, trained with bad data and designed to always answer with some kind of positive response.
They absolutely can be trained on actual data, trained to give less confident answers, and have an error checking process run on their output after they formulate an answer.
If "they have to use good data and actually fact check what they say to people" kills "all machine leaning models" then it's a death they deserve.
The fact is that you can do the above, it's just much, much harder (you have to work with data from trusted sources), much slower (you have to actually validate that data), and way less profitable (your AI will be able to reply to way less questions) then pretending to be the "answer to everything machine."
They don't care until they don't have any truckers. Then they care.
If its a big company like old dominion, they likely wont give a fuck ever, but my company always has trouble keeping hold of truckers and they really do give a shit about the churn.
Step one seems to be "find a new market" now that you cant use this one anymore.
AI's second innovation, besides letting you mass fire labor, is removing all blame for any decision as long as you can thinly point to AI being involved.
It outsources responsibility, and our legal/political/moral systems are not built to handle it.
More scalable is hilarious. They take like 10 years to build and cost 18 billion dollars to get 1GW steady state.
Meanwhile, we can whip out 1GW of solar in 2yrs for 2 billion, and do it in modular sections. You don't have steady state, but you could build solar out to compete with enough battery and high voltage transmission lines, with basically zero nuclear hurdles. It would cost, but it is viable now and much faster, and that's with current tech. Batteries and panels are just getting cheaper and better.
There is only one active thorium reactor in the world, and its 2MW test plant in China, out in the Gobi desert. They just managed to refuel it for the first time, which is a great milestone, but in no way, shape or form are thorium reactors a viable power source anywhere else on earth, much less "so portable they fit in a 40ft shipping container."
"No justice, no peace" isn't a slogan. It's a cause and effect.