subnormal

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[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 hour ago

Reminder that Anthropic's AI system was used in targeting the school in Minab, killing 120 students. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/11/us-strike-iran-elementary-school-ai-target-list/

The company is suing to be able to supply the US military again. It is in bed with the fascists.

[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Okay fair enough.

Since Maven's entire business is data analysis and targeting, can we agree that if the AI is not being used for targeting, it is being used to analyze data? And those analyzed data get fed into the targeting system, so the AI is part of the kill chain?

What kind of data is being analyzed by AI? How much of it feed into the targeting system? I concede that I don't know and have no source. The US military would have to be really stupid to make these info public.

[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

You're the one saying it's not the Claude LLM doing the targeting. Your source is that Guardian article you linked.

I don't care if it's an LLM or some other thing made by Anthropic. Anthropic is involved in this. All the sources in this conversation so far indicate so. Or are you trying to argue that they are just supplying Palantir and Project Maven for wholly innocent purposes?

Pointing out Anthropic's involvement in the killing of 120 students does not in any way shift blame away from Palantir and Maven. Of course there are information gaps regarding how exactly the AI was involved. No remotely competent military would make all these information public.

[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (5 children)

My sources are already linked in my two earlier comments. What about them are you disputing?

I don't see how the recency matters. That Anthropic was not involved in bombings conducted by the US military in previous years does not absolve them of their involvement in the bombing of the school in Minab.

[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 hours ago (7 children)

Yes. I never said it was an LLM. It was probably some custom AI system made by Anthropic.

Are we agreed that some Anthropic AI system (not necessarily the Claude LLM) was in the kill chain? That was what I was trying to say from the beginning.

[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 hours ago (9 children)

Anthropic's AI did data analysis for Project Maven, which was a system that used data analyzed by various sources to target a school. So the AI is part of the "kill-chain" no?

[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck L.W but what's the point of this wholly AI-generated post?

[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago (11 children)
[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 hours ago

I wasn't clear. What I meant was: what sane things could a fascist military use AI for?

"Reactionary" lmao. My friend, I use LLMs all the time. Just not the proprietary ones from companies that are in bed with fascists.

[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

What sane use? And how does this company plan to prevent the fascists from using it to kill another 120 children?

The only not-evil move is to not sell dual-use goods to fascists in the first place.

[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 13 hours ago

For me I just use it to get verbose answers to questions.

I use open-weight LLM over search engines when I can, because Google/Bing/Yandex are complete proprietary black boxes run by corporations of questionable morality.

[–] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

There are many less evils. Use open source/weight AI like Kimi, GLM, Deepseek, Mistral, Olmo, Arcee, Minimax, Qwen, Exaone, NVidia, Sarvam...

If you don't have the hardware to run locally, you can pay for API. If you find the company problematic for whatever reason, you can switch to the same model served by a third party (possible because the model weights are publicly released).

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