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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 126 points 1 week ago (1 children)

.ml is the official one created by the lemmy guys, who are tankies, and that instance has a lot of tankie opinions and bad takes.

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 80 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Tankies traditionally but more recently pro-Russian imperial fascists, ruZi if you will.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago

I got banned for calling that yogurtz guy a ruski simp.

And I'll do it again.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd like to fully agree, but modern Russia is not even close to the old school soviet which they idolize.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also true, which makes their modern Russia apologia that much more baffling. Well, not really, as any US adversary is good in their eyes.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is Russia even a US adversary anymore?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Russia sees everyone else as either Russian or enemy of Russia.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Depends on your frame of reference, but I'd still say yes even if the president is a Russian asset.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You seem to think that having Trump on your side makes you pro America, but I strongly disagree.

Putin didn't campaign for his pet Trump to be president in offer to strengthen and enrich the USA!

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You seem to think that having Trump on your side makes you pro America, but I strongly disagree.

In terms of population I don't think having Trump on your side makes you pro America, but "adversary" is a geopolitical term.

On the stage of geopolitics, the current US government acts in favor of Russia.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

On the stage of geopolitics, the current US government acts in favor of Russia.

True, yes.

But I don't think it's reciprocated!

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's only baffling if you don't listen to the actual reasons people believe things and just assume it's because Russia used to be socialist, regardless of how many people say otherwise.

Liberals will refuse to listen to our explanations of our positions and then call our positions bizarre and indecipherable. Because you get your understanding of our positions from stories you make up and pass around about us that have no basis in reality.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I never said tankies support Russia because it used to be (allegedly) socialist, ~~I'm saying it's wild you promote it as AES when it fucking isn't.~~

And I've heard the apologia for the Ukraine invasion, and it's all bullshit.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m saying it’s wild you promote it as AES when it fucking isn’t.

And I'm saying no one considers Russia to be AES, it's a strawman that libs tell each other about us until they forget they made it up.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Actually you're right, I misspoke. The comment said that modern Russia isn't anywhere near USSR ideals, to which I said makes it even more baffling that tankies support it.

So yes, it's not AES, which makes it obvious that tankies supporting Russia are anti-us campists and not anti imperialists.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

By that logic, you don't even need to know my stance on Russia, because the fact that I opposed the war in Afghanistan "proves I'm not anti-imperialist." The Taliban definitely isn't socialist either, after all.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not a single person says the Russian Federation is socialism. You're confusing people critically supporting its movements against the US Empire with people believing it to be socialist. They do have rising socialist sympathies among the populace, but that doesn't make them socialist.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah already took the correction below.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago
[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I know I shouldn't bite, and it'll all end in tears, but this bait is too tempting!

if you don’t listen to the actual reasons people believe things and just assume it’s because Russia used to be socialist

What, specifically is good about specifically Russia as it is nowadays, from a leftist perspective, that isn't because it used to be socialist?!