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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 161 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (12 children)

The admins over there have some profoundly questionable views, which tends to push away reasonable people and attract bootlickers.

The problem is not the users as much as the site itself and its admins. I wish reasonable people (not bootlickers) would stop using lemmy.ml and go somewhere better. Lemmy.ml's biggest function right now is to scare away good people who would have been happy elsewhere.

[–] muxika@lemmy.ml 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Having an ideological focus for an entire instance feels like a major mistake. I can understand one admin having that take, but not the whole team. Thanks for the heads up.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 71 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think instances with ideological underpinnings is fine, and maybe inevitable. The crucial thing is that they need to be honest about it, so that those not interested can go elsewhere.

The problem with lemmy.ml is that it pretends to be a catch-all instance when it's in fact very much not, and that it doesn't tell users up front what it's all about. Both Hexbear and Lemmygrad are better in that respect—at least they're honest.

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Part of the sign up process I went through was to copy a line from something Marx wrote (can't remember now I'm a bad communist) to be approved for an account.

Maybe it wasn't like that in the past but it was made clear in the sign up processs that the admins are ML communists and run their instance with those beliefs informing their moderation decisions.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago (5 children)
[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Much appreciated. Haven't found any time to read anything, regrettably, but I have bookmarked your lists!

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[–] nithou@piefed.social 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Learned about this today, was mainly on lemmy.ml because lemmy.world was blocking too much instances -_- Now trying piefed.social

[–] marx@piefed.social 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I've enjoyed piefed a lot so far. I think it's a good choice.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's not that people don't like the lemmy.ml users, or even really their mods...

It's (at least one of) the admins.

If they see something they don't like on their server, they delete it and give a very very short ban. Because they don't want those people gone. They want them enraged and chomping at the bit to come back.

It's ran like a troll instance, and it's not alone.

The only time they permanently ban someone, is when they see someone in a neutral place they can't control talking about it. Advocate for people blocking them, and they don't want anyone signed up to their instance seeing your comments

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 29 points 6 days ago

No, their users are by and large insufferable fascist sympathisers. They're the reason ML gets a bad reputation.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

Biggest issue is that said admins are the lemmy devs. .ml is their test instance.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 126 points 6 days ago (1 children)

.ml is the official one created by the lemmy guys, who are tankies, and that instance has a lot of tankie opinions and bad takes.

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 80 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Tankies traditionally but more recently pro-Russian imperial fascists, ruZi if you will.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd like to fully agree, but modern Russia is not even close to the old school soviet which they idolize.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 49 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Also true, which makes their modern Russia apologia that much more baffling. Well, not really, as any US adversary is good in their eyes.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 22 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Is Russia even a US adversary anymore?

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[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago

I got banned for calling that yogurtz guy a ruski simp.

And I'll do it again.

[–] phar@lemmy.world 87 points 6 days ago (27 children)

I was just banned from there because I said The Invasion into Ukraine is murdering people. They called me a fascist because I kept saying I don't agree with murdering people.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 62 points 6 days ago (33 children)

That's because they think Ukrainians are Nazis because Putin said so.

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[–] muxika@lemmy.ml 30 points 6 days ago

Welp, that feels like a red flag. Thanks for the info.

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[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Because of the atrocious behavior they exhibit 100% of the time I've been unlucky enough to engage in "dialogue" with them.

I'm sure there are, among their ranks, some capable of critical thought, but if I see the .ml I generally know to expect a bunch of bad faith arguments and a large number of conflicting, morally ambiguous stances on world affairs.

In general: self-important,  ill-informed buffoons with axes to grind coalescing around the simulacrum of Marxist-Lenninist philosophy, who would shrivel to unmanned husks were they to endure what they loudly call for.

The similarity to the standard issue MAGA specimen is most uncanny, and typically varies only in regards to which idol they worship.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago

Everything that is critical of China or Russia is cia propaganda. Everything their sources say is unquestionable truth. That sums up my experience

[–] watson@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

After four days on that instance, have you not figured it out for yourself yet?

You will, eventually

Edit: a bit of instant-hopping is not unusual in the beginning. Part of the Lemmy experience is finding an instance where you feel comfortable. That might take a while and more than a few attempts.

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 43 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

Just a side note
The instance you’re on doesn’t really matter very much if you never read the local feed. If you do, you’ll definitely notice the local vibe sooner or later.

If you’re on an instance that is widely defederated, you may also notice that it’s difficult to find communities. Also, people may comment on your instance if it happens to be particularly notorious. The server hardware and bandwidth may also matter in some extreme cases.

Other than that, instances don’t really matter that much.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There are some exceptions to this. Blahaj blocks downvotes, for example. You can downvote a post on Blahaj, but people (like me) with accounts on Blahaj cannot downvote nor can they see downvotes. I'm sure there are other instances doing similar things, as it sounds like Lemmy has a robust set of instance settings/options.

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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The instance matters if you post about anything political. If your instance admins don’t like your posts, they will delete your account. Mods and admins of other instances can only ban you.

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[–] muxika@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No, I don't think 4 days is enough to distinguish between a user's hot take and an instance's position. I didn't focus on the local feed, so I wouldn't have known. Most of the posts I've seen have been centered on Linux and privacy.

As I keep scrolling, though, I can see some troubling posts.

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[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 22 points 6 days ago

I am subbed to quite a few communities over there, zero issues for me.

[–] remon@ani.social 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Because of the way they are.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

It took me maybe a week to figure out that I don't want to be there and why.

If you haven't figured it out yet, you either need more time or you are just like the .ml gang and that's your home.

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