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That's because they think Ukrainians are Nazis because Putin said so.
The entire worlds media saw them as the nazis they are before the war
Ok buddy
Liberals are always against every war except the current one
So there were groups of a certain type of people in a country so bomb and murder the entire civilian populations of cities? Russia has fascist leadership, do you think we should blow up Moscow? Trump is a fascist, should we bomb NYC? Your logic is crap.
The US knew it could pull Russia into war by pushing for Ukrainian NATO membership, a membership they were never going to honor. By NATO's own admission Ukraine is too corrupt for membership
Funny how you always manage to have shit takes no matter the thread
Just because you've bought all of the pro NATO, pro war, imperialism propaganda doesn't mean that it's a shit take.
Is Russia not big boy enough to make decisions on its own? They had to go to war with someone because of a threat of a country next to them joining NATO even though there was no hope to join nato? Maybe Russia should get their shit together then. Ukraine was part of NATO partners for peace in the early 90s. They've wanted to be part of NATO. Pretending Russia was forced into it is ridiculous.
Come back after the war is over so you can pretend you were against the entire war the whole time
I was against the war when it started I'm against the war now obviously. I will be against the war when it's over. So I'm not really sure what you're insinuating. Also I'm always against countries invading other countries on flimsy justification. Whether it's the US and Iraq or Russia and Ukraine or Israel and palestine.
You can't be against war and support one side in it lmao.
I support the invading army to stop invading and go home. Keep their own soldiers alive as well, to go home and be with their families.
And the Russians support Ukraine accept that the territory no longer belongs to them, and demilitarize so the millions of Ukrainians who've fled can come home and rebuild.
That's not supporting peace, "I want the other side to just give up" is not materially different than the most bloodthirsty warhawk's position.
Then what would you advocate in Gaza? I think Israel should absolutely just cease hostilities immediately and walk away from the conflict. Does that make me the most bloodthirsty warhawk? Such weird logic.
Israel should be dissolved give full, democratic rights to Palestinians, including the ones they've kicked out, and return their homes. A two-state solution simply leaves Palestine as a rump-state controlled by Israel, as the PA has been. Apartheid in South Africa didn't end with the colonizers taking all the best land, encircling the natives, and then giving them a state that is dependent on the white state.
Wow. And the reason that that's the wrong response to Russia invading Ukraine is....?
A 1-state solution in Ukraine would leave the Ukrainians a minority within an oppressive regime, you'd have an insurgency forever, even if the US stopped sending weapons.
The only solution that is feasible at this time is for the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine to split off, the Ukrainian parts to remain, the fascists purged, and Russia to pay for rebuilding/reeducating Ukraine. Do I think Russia will do the last two? Probably not.
Why advocate for the dissolution of Israel but not of Russia? What were you intending to do with the Israeli people? Why not split Israel and Gaza along linguistic lines as you propose to split Ukraine? Your solution in Gaza/Israel is the complete capitulation and dissolution of Israel, the invader, reversing the situation as it is, whereas your solution in Ukraine is a two state carving up of Ukraine, the invaded, and no negative consequences for Russia, the invader. Why the discrepancy?
If we dissolved Russia tomorrow and created a new state including all Russian and Ukrainian territory, you'd have the Ukrainian areas immediately fighting to secede, and the Russian-speaking areas of Ukraine probably vote to remain.
Give them equal rights to the Palestinians, with minority protections/representation after giving the Palestinian people their homes back and allowing the ones who fled to Egypt and surrounding countries to return home.
Russia and Israel are fundamentally different entities; the Israeli settler-colonial project requires the continued ethnic cleansing of its claimed territory and it's status as an American outpost requires it take hostile action against anyone America wants to fuck with, currently Iran and Syria; meanwhile Russia did a simple calculus:
Option 1: Don't invade Expected result: hostile, NATO-backed state 50 miles from Moscow who can act with impunity and we can't respond
Option 2: Spend 3 days driving to Kiev, replace government Expected result: Pre-2014 status quo of Ukrainian buffer state.
I guess you know little about what's happening in the occupied regions of Ukraine. Your double standards make me sick.
This is an incredibly entertaining reach you’re attempting here. Hilarious! Love it!!
Look! Carefully curated pictures that help tell the chosen narrative!
This is as bad a a the bullshit man-on-the-street videos where they edit out all the ones that make valid opposing point. Want democrats to look stupid? Interview 100 people and only show the small handful of them that said dumb shit.
What’s funny and a bit of a bummer, is that you don’t know how funny everyone thinks it is when you share dumb shit like thinks.
Also, you’re here proving every single point against .ml.
Isn't all that from the untrustworthy western propaganda machine?
No, no, it's only untrustworthy American propaganda when it challenges their world view. Right now it's a series of cherry-picked, possibly altered snips designed to push the fascists narrative, so it's great.
Also, everyone who disagrees with you is a liberal.
I'm using Western sources that liberals claim don't exist
And a "3-day special military operation" is an appropriate way to "de-nazify" Ukraine, or does it look more like a land grab?
It looks like the US wanted a war to feed the mic and got one
That's weird, to everyone else it looks like Russia wanted a war to feed it's mic and created one
The US is the only country with an industry specifically for war
So... Russia doesn't manufacture their own military hardware and munitions?
This is among the dumbest shit I've ever seen. Stop talking until you know what you're taking about.
Get back to us with any other country has a military even 1/10 the size of the US.
Hey look! Here’s one now!