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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 186 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's exactly why he's doing this.

False claim one; Fentanyl is a WMD

False claim two; Fentanyl is coming from Venezuela.

Enjoy twenty more years of quagmire America.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 84 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You're missing the other countries he's used fentanyl to harass: Mexico, Canada, and China.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okay, but all of those are evil countries corrupted by the insidious hand of the Marxist Antifa

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

At least those countries are at least associated with fenntanyl and its supply chain. Venezuela is not as far as I'm aware. So it makes the whole thing much more preposterous.

And just to clarify, we should not be starting any wars over the drug trade since that is much more effectively combatted by dealing with the causes here at home. As long as there is demand there will always be supply.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You're assuming he's talking about using this as an excuse to invade Venezuela. I'm assuming he'll use it as an excuse to invade Canada and Mexico. He's already made up bullshit about how it's pouring over our border, and he's already threatened our country with annexation.

If they invade it, the US won't attempt to annex Mexico because giving Mexicans US citizenship will piss off Trump's racist supporters.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's no way that happens. The oligarchs would lose money in the conflict. They gain money in a Venezuela conflict presumably. They have a lot of oil, like almost Saudi levels of oil, and there isnt enough trade with Venezuela for a war to upset the pocket books of the wealthy.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure the US could feel entitled to Canadian oil too, and then make up a justification afterwards.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I agree in principle. However, the economics (well, monied interests) of it right now are not favorable. Too many people with money to make in US-Canadian trade would pull support for the politicians that push for it. That may change over time.

I think the idea was floated in the media by Mr Asshat because someone wanting the oil was interested in capturing it, but the push back from other donors was clear, and we dont hear them talking about it anymore other than to defend their "right" to float such ideas.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Your points are correct. There was also congressional vote condemning tariffs on Canada.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

More fentanyl flows into Canada from the US than flows into the US from Canada.

Wasn't that part of the Iraq justification? "We know they have WMDs because we gave them to them!"

[–] Dwayne_Elizondo_Mountain_Dew_Camacho@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

At least those countries are at least associated with fenntanyl and its supply chain.

Sure, buddy...

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not saying Canada has a significant role. Venezuela just isn't involved at all.

"Based on seizure data and law enforcement investigation information, the consensus among U.S. authorities is that Mexico was the only significant source of illicit fentanyl and fentanyl analogues trafficked into the United States in 2024."

Source

Venezuela isn't even mentioned. Neither is Canada I suppose. And that is U.S. gov data. So not like they can claim they didn't know.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're forgetting a crucial thing: Trump doesn't care about facts

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

That's a pretty hard thing to forget. Still thinks its worth acknowledging the lies though.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We just need to send Pete Hegseth to the UN with a little vial of enough fentanyl to kill a handful of horses.

Bonus, make it real fentanyl and he probably won't make it out of the bathroom alive.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's a professional he'd just go fent lean at the UN podium

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Get bent, Hegseth