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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 33 points 4 hours ago

I think people are missing something pretty important here: this creates justification to use the US military against its citizens. Sure, it may just be to justify an invasion of Venezuela, but I suspect it's more substantial than that. Saying the cartels have WMDs within the United States manufactures a threat that the military needs to fight. These "WMDs" are in every state and every city. They have manufactured a credible reason to use the military anywhere in the US against any group of people because it's so pervasive.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

If I'm ever in combat, I hope like hell the only things they drop on me is fentanyl.

[–] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If this is a preamble to justify a new decade of carpet-bombing a third world country again: I sort of really hope it the final straw that finally gets NATO to intervene; treating the USA as a global threat. I know it's just a pipe dream, but I can dream nonetheless

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The best NATO can do is to help the constitutionalist side in a US civil war while fighting russia at the same time (who will try to provide support to the monarchist side, but it will be hard without controlling both coasts and Canada). Hah, maybe russia/China would try to smuggle help in through Mexico.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago

Sounds like you have a wmd that's easy for police to plant on people.

[–] leds@feddit.dk 11 points 6 hours ago

Faithless 

"Mass Destruction"

Whether long range weapon or suicide bomber

Wicked mind is a weapon of mass destruction

Whether you're soar away sun or BBC 1

Misinformation is a weapon of mass destruction

You could a Caucasian or a poor Asian

Racism is a weapon of mass destruction

Whether inflation or globalization

Fear is a weapon of mass destruction

Whether Halliburton or Enron or anyone

Greed is a weapon of mass destruction

We need to find courage, overcome

Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction

That was 2004 

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

So it’s a painkiller?

[–] MostRegularPeople@lemmy.world 31 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine getting charged with a personal amount of WMDs

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 6 hours ago

Some smoke detectors have some radioactive materials in them.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 24 points 9 hours ago

Temu Iraq War

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 17 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Why does everything have to be so extreme. I tired of this chaos.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Not everything! The Democrats are very moderate.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think you just answered the question. Dems might be too moderate.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

I think that was his point.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 7 points 8 hours ago

If it wasn't, Trump couldn't justify what he's doing.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Rats! My penis has been snubbed once more!

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Fentanyl is, if not the most common, a very common opiate used in hospitals, with virtue of being the cheapest. It's overdose danger, is that a normal dose is of much smaller size, and then so is a fatal one. Usually GOP/CIA is pro addicts and overdoses because you need to vote GOP harder to punish them harder.

Instead of lying for "easy to win wars so that the US/Trump can look tougher and/or perhaps cancel elections", if opiates were a real issue, then programs including forced detox, but free voluntary detox too, A pharma incentive to make better non-addictive pain relief (aspirin/tylenol/advil), or making a deal with Taliban to produce "state opium farms" so that our hospital system (source of street fentanyl through theft) can go back to "safe opiates".... are all direct solutions to a stated problem instead of false tariffs and war excuses.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 3 hours ago

The entire war on drugs was created so they could make blacks and hippies felons so they couldn't vote.

It's never been about the betterment of society.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 31 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

drone strikes on Pfizer and Merck facilities are imminent! The Sackler family are being sent to Gauntanamo!

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 11 hours ago

We could do that or we can invade a bunch of countries and strip away rights from people.

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[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

So is FUCKING LITTLE BOYS. Put this closet cock sucker in a box with no door.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't this the drug that cops in America freak out at if you merely mention it?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Just by asking this question, you have sent several on-duty cops to the ER with rapid heart rates and extreme agitation, well-known signs of opiate overdose.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago

And yet, when used in medicine, the drug has to be ingested or injected. We can't just rub it on the skin.

Hmmm

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That doesn't really narrow things down.

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 hours ago (15 children)

So, can some folks here correct my ignorance. I was under the impression that most of the fentanyl entering the US is being manufactured in China. It doesn't sound crazy to me that this is some sort of conspiracy to weaken the American public.

I'm not sure why we can't just decriminalize drugs so folks and do heroin in peace. Or maybe fix some of the problems that are causing people to do drugs.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I was under the impression that most of the fentanyl entering the US is being manufactured in China. It doesn’t sound crazy to me that this is some sort of conspiracy to weaken the American public.

Reverse Opium Wars lolol

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Generally China is being worryingly successful recently

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

The precursor is made in China, but not fentanyl itself. They sell the precursor, and, IIRC, it's largely finished in Mexico. The precursor is nominally legal, so it's shipped as close as it can be to be manufactured.

It's mostly cocaine coming through Venezuela I think. It's not being grown there, but it is one of several shipping routes.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Pain management is a profitable industry, there is an illegal black market around it, but I'm pretty sure pharmacies are still the largest supplier.

People go to the black market after the primary market fails, like they lose their insurance.

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I know, they should have access to something safer than fentanyl, especially since the way it's taken it only lasts very briefly and is very addictive.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

But the margins are a lot healthier on synthetics, plus everyone is put off by oxy now. It got some bad press for getting people hooked on drugs.

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[–] SourGumGum@lemmy.world 34 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

So America is harboring WMDs? Quick somebody assemble a coalition of the willing to liberate them.

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

does this man know how much of a joke he is? or is it lost on him?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago

Oh, this is no joke. It lets them use any laws relevant to WMD on citizens suspected of having fentanyl.

Laws are based on words and definitions. If you change the words and definitions, you change the laws. It's also why we've been in a "state of emergency" for the entire year.

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