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US President Donald Trump signed the 2026 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law Thursday, completing the passage of the largest military spending bill in US history—$901 billion, or over $1 trillion when combined with supplemental funding passed earlier this year.

The Senate voted 77-20 on Wednesday to pass the bill. The Democratic leadership, including Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York and Minority Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois, voted for the bill. They were joined by Senators Mark Kelly of Arizona and Elissa Slotkin of Michigan, both of whom released a video last month calling on military personnel to disobey illegal orders—as Trump was sending the US military on a murder spree off the coast of Latin America.

Citing Trump’s statements about using troops to shoot protesters in America, Slotkin invoked the legacy of the Nuremberg tribunals, which convicted Nazi leaders for war crimes and crimes against peace. But when it came time to vote, this invocation was revealed to be completely meaningless. Slotkin voted to hand Trump the resources to pursue his military adventure against Venezuela...

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

see, this is why we say voting won't solve your problems. don't hate the messenger.

you could use rethinking instead of blaming russians or tankies or whatever.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The progressive ones voted against this. Bernie Sanders, Elisabeth Warren, Ron Wyden and 17 others did vote against this. Voting has an effect. It does move the needle.

Voting is not enough on its own. You can do more. You should do more. Your have power over the government goes beyond the ballot box, but its best to use both.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

and did it work? i mean when the literal nazis in power can outvote any resistance, it just means something has been very wrong for very long, and we shouldn't waste our time.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

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voting takes one day. It doesn't prevent you also doing direct action, or general strikes, or whatever more forceful actions may be needed. Its not an either or situation. Use all the tools available to you including your vote

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

it does, and i do. but let's not pretend it is meaningful or legitimate at all.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Voting doesn’t make a difference at this level, because where it did make a difference, they failed to vote.

There’s only one solution the US has to get out of the hole it’s in. Progressives must vote out the problem Democrats in primaries, which means they all have to vote in that, then vote those people in, come the elections. It’s the only way the US can get where it needs to be to make the changes socialists want. The US doesn’t have the systems in place like ranked choice to do things differently.

You don’t have a choice. You’ve got to vote your way out of it, if you get another chance.

The only other way is the one some think they want but they actually really don’t, which is not likely to work the way they want anyway.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

God dude the lectures from liberals when I tell them I dont vote cause its not worth a damn and I have better things to do with my time.

Until heads literally roll, nothing will change.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago

all while asking themselves what to do. it would be hilarious if it weren't tragic.