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Well, a bunch of them did something against it, they just failed. That's how their democracy works, if more than half of the country wants somethings, the other half is along for the ride. And if only quarter of voters don't want something, they're not only along for the ride, but they get the shittiest deal.
If they failed they did nothing about it.
We need to rally these Americans to organize and strike
Dehumanising your enemy is a step towards fascism.
And what happened to the Vietnamese after the Yankees left? If you think you're going to improve things by killing lots of people you're a moron.
Cunt everything you enjoy was achieved through mass disobedience and violence. Yet you have the gall to say it doesn't improve things? Are you stupid or just uneducated?
Violence just leads to more violence. If you paid even a tiny bit of attention to history, you'd know that.
The power of love is what gave many the courage to charge fascist lines and keep firing until they heard the "PING!" , over and over again, until those fascists were no longer able to continue hurting people.
I'd argue we need that power of love more than ever, as it discerns righteous violence from the pointless bloodshed lusted after by evil men.
To love one another is to make certain our neighbor must never endure the fascist's boot.
I pray we all find the courage to love one another a little more fiercely, in the face of these horrors.
Its funny, many years ago I had a friend that taught English in south Korea for a bit and got to talk with a bunch of people that also did so one night. It sticks with me today that almost everyone who taught in Vietnam said it was hands down the best place with the best people to do that line of work. One woman told me about how there is not a lot of money but in the small village (I have no idea how big that actually is since I was also told that a place of 100k people in China was also a "village") she was treated like one of their own and even had a small parade when she left. She also taught in Japan, Indo and South Korea but always tried to get more work in Vietnam even though they pay the least.
The very idea that somehow the nation with most positive opinion in southeast Asia (maybe even all of Asia) is also being off offhandedly insulted by what I would assume is an american in a tone deaf, evidence free and super easy to disprove statement kinda makes me chuckle. The Vietnamese are fine, no thanks to the us, and from what I know of the history using the war as an example of "If you think you’re going to improve things by killing lots of people you’re a moron." is just dang funny.
also VIETNAM is pretty pro-usa so to speak. economically, unlike china which has a hate/love relationship. its only the Vietnamese imimgrants,older who are all wierd they are hard right folks in the us because they hated vietnam during the war.
Eh, I would not know about the ones in the us as I have never talked to any and generally don't try and look for american opinions (they show up without me doing anything anyway).
When was that? I was talking about the time after the Vietnam war. In recent years, things have been getting better there, obviously. Also, one person having a positive experience doesn't make the place a utopia.
Everyone I have spoken to who has been there have said nice things.
Edit: The same can not be said of China, or the us.
What bad things do people who went to China say? The only negative I have is the state of the bathrooms and the great firewall.
Food quality, endless scams, economic options for people, government corruption (more so the local governments) and from a woman I went to collage with; a bleak situation as a woman overall (however this may have improved).
These where comments from people who lived there (some born there) and that's not even mentioning the government threats to ex pats that happen.
Huh, I guess the government seriously cracked down on the first 3 before I got there. I did hear complaints about the difficulty getting a job.
The food thing was mostly localized and people who did not look Chinese had more issues, most people I know that lived in China got very sick at least once. Not saying the food is bad or anything, I think it is more a matter of scamming people. The scamming is really bad in some parts but not bad in others and not a problem unique to China. And the economic option issues is more about not having good places to invest money in China, and that makes sense since I am talking mostly to people who have left for that reason.
what you said, what happened to the vietnamese people after the war, yea it wasnt good at first because they got out of a war. but overtime they recovered economically and improved relationships with the west, especially USA. your initial comment they suffered alot, well duh its after the war thats why they fled the regime. overtime it has gotten alot better, you seem to think they ended up destitute like North korea for some reason.
Vietnam after the war was one of the most repressive dictatorships on earth that hundreds of thousands of people fled from. Such freedom.
Repressive regimes depend on people like you for their existence.
I am glad, thank you.
believe me ive talked to people who immigrated from vietnamese, they are hard rightoids, its not like these are good people that ended up in America either. also vietnamese, koreans has a general dislike for Chinese people in the usa, eventhough both parties are so far removed from thier own countries and have little to do with thier politics anymore.
They build a prospering nation that uplifted their people from poverty. The Vietnamese are - in the absolute majority - very happy with their government.
If that was the case, surely they'd hold free and fair elections to confirm that.
The party has elections. The best measure of whether a country is democratic is if they do what the people want and whats in the people's interest vs those of billionaires.
Russia and America have elections, but we both know they're not meaningfully democratic.
"We don't need free and fair elections because other countries don't have them either" is about the dumbest argument you can make.
"We have more democracy than you so shut the fuck up" is the argument.
Well... this was something I talked about with my father in law a while back when I lived in Vietnam, he replied around the line of "For what?".
You should not think everyone in the world wants the same things people in the west want.
Tell me you've never been to vietnam without telling me you've never been to vietnam.
I've never been but fuck them's some clean streets.
I kinda cherry picked that one, the streets are much worse in Hanoi/hcmc.
vietnam as far as the economy goes they have been chugging along pretty good, despite being ccp-lite, they hadnt suffer irreversible damage, like N korea when america had to withdraw from the country. besides alot of manufacturing is ending up in the country