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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago (9 children)

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

[–] mang0@lemmy.zip 33 points 5 days ago (25 children)

The amount of people who voted republican completely obliterates the tiny fraction of people who abstained from voting democrat. How about directing focus where it's relevant?

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The amount of people who sat home on voting day outweighs both republican and democrat voters. Apathy won the last presidential election, just like every election in recent memory.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Apathy is a tool of capital. If apathy is the reason, capitalism is the cause

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

While true, a Pew study found that "if all Americans eligible to vote in 2024 had cast ballots, the overall margin in the popular vote likely would not have been much different".

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trumps-2024-victory-a-more-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-voter-coalition/

So, anyone continuing the "nonvoters did this" line can fuck off.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Encouraging more democratic leaning voters would've made a difference however, you don't have to assume linear proportional effect

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Also true, but much more easily said than done.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Encouraging more democratic leaning voters would’ve made a difference however, you don’t have to assume linear proportional effect

Which is exactly the job of the Democrat Party leaders, which is done via amongst other things offering potential voters the things they desire and assuaging their concerns, things which are clearly not "Unwavering support of Israel and its Genocide", "Do whatever is good for Finance and Tech-bros" or "Supporting the Cheney family, legacy and political ideology".

The people with by far the most power to convince leftwing leaning non-voters to vote for the Democrat Party were the Democrat Party leaders and they, with all that power they had, actually did the very opposite of trying to cater to the desires and concerns of such non-voters.

Yet around here whenever american politics pops up as a subject we get a rabid pack of mindless useful idiots blaming non-voters literally for not convincing themselves to vote for a party whose leaders activelly tried to reject them, never blaming those fucking leaders for activelly rejecting said potential voters.

Fuck the subservient, bootlicking Democrat Party tribalists who keep on excusing the profound incompetence and greed of their tribe's "chiefs" and parroting the DNC propaganda line that pushes the blame to non-voters rather than accept that the blame for a fucking monster like Trump having been elected a second time is overwhelmingly of the DNC and the rest of the Democrat Party leadership who once again chose to "stay pretty close but just below" in the Evil scales from the Republicans

Maybe it's not so obvious for those living inside America and its Politics, but from the outside it's obvious that both of Trump's presidential election victories are the end product of decades of the Democrat Party leadership getting away with representing ever fewer people whilst relying on a "vote lesser evil" strategy, all of which supported by the very same useful idiots who now, once again, come out relentlessly parroting the "everybody but ourselves is to blame" mindless bullshit that only an acephalic tribalist muppet would believe.

It is fucking obvious for anybody who knows just a bit of World History that Trump or somebody like him was bound to be elected sooner or later in the US when the strategy of the competing political force there was nothing more than invariably sidding with the handful of moneyed elites just limited by the need to stay just one step below in the Ladder of Evil from the other political force.

So enjoy the Fall Of The Empire you created for yourselves (by supporting a "Greater Evil" vs "Lesser evil" political power structure) and for the other 340 million people over there, whilst the rest of us batters the hatches and endures the side effects of the "Empire overextending itself militarily whilst the homeland becomes ever empoverished and authoritarian" phase of such Fall until America fizzles in power (if you're lucky) or breaks up.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"tiny fraction of people" millions of registered D voters sat it out

The DNC knew that Harris campaign pursuing Republican votes would cost her the election. She knew it, too, she's not dumb.

Independents outnumber Ds and Rs; if you ignore your own Democrats and ignore Independents and pursue Republican votes, you will lose every time.

The math requires you to keep your own voters AND acquire Independent votes. There's no way around it, not enough Ds exist, even if all had voted you still need I votes.

This is why Democratic campaigns are otherwise always focused on D and I votes.

Why did they ignore the fundamentals? You decide... but recall that she raised over a billion dollars in a few months, whilst Trump raised only 900 million in four years.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

yeah but then how could libs feel smugly superior?

they’d rather blame the tiny fraction of people with principles rather than the third of the country that is actively fascist, because politically, they’re closer to the fascists

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

I'd hardly take criticism from so called leftists regarding smugness.

Blaming "liberals" for not voting on "principle" (re: ego) while they sit on their asses telling everyone else to form an armed rebellion instead certainly aren't smug bastards themselves.

[–] arnitbier@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Because they are the ones that knew but chose to play some bullshit game instead of putting their shit aside for the reality they knew was there but just made them feel uncomfortable.

Its actually way worse in that way then the republicans who are nearly impossible to blame as they were and some still are totally convinced a fantasy reality was actually there at that time and can't be held as accountable by blaming as much as they see it as a personal attack and it vindicates them if not put in language they understand.

Tell the republicans to fuck themselves and it helps to remind them they're supporting a pedo and a warmongerer. Hold them accountable with specifics actions he's done against them and why its bad. Not a general you shouldn't have voted for him because fantasyland reasoning

You have to do their thinking for them entirely I'm learning, its like drugs, theyre addicted to people thinking for them, have to get them a healthy alternative to get them weaned so they can fend for themselves afterwards but not before that happens

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

play some bullshit game

Oh I know this one, its the two party system pretending to be a democracy right?

But I am things are bad because the wrong team is in power, and if they turn out to be great it is all due to the brave right team. But hey good thing you are there to "do their thinking for them entirely"!

[–] arnitbier@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Jesus your contextual reading needs work

Fox news ONN types need they're thinking done for them.

You need therapy and a fucking wake up call. This is reality not some ideological victimhood posturing contest. The two party system controlled by the media and the monetary powers that be run this shitshow (along with Russian gov misinformation campaigning and other fucking useful idiots)

So spelled out. It was not a good time to take that fight and were all getting fucked up now because you fucked up your turn.

Figure if they come for you, your family or a loved one and send them to some hellhole that might that might help you understand that. But have fun winning your "The world has to work how I want it before I participate" award. Wasn't worth it IMO.

Learn to play the actual game or get fucked by those that already do. Good fucking luck next turn. Do not fuck up this one

[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

You need therapy

What’s the definition of insanity again? Something about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

Well, I’ve been voting “blue no matter who” for damn near 30 years now, and shit has not changed for the better. Society has changed for the better in some ways, but that is not being represented in our government.

I’m starting to think my vote for Nader was the sanest thing I’ve ever done in my civic life.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Fox news ONN types need they’re thinking done for them.

And you see no issues with this statement? You need the wake up call, you live in a hellscape that is actively making the world worse and just assume I do too. You and your american exceptionalism can go to hell. The best time to fight was before and the next best time is now.

Please do the world a favor and ether fix your shit nation or collapse already.

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[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The USA famously never invaded or bombed any country during Democrat administration /s

[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Obama bombed the shit out of people his entire term. Including an American citizen.

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