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[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Windows 11 a newcomer?

Dude it's already like 5-ish years old.

Also, I'm going to be very technical here and I don't care if people hate it. But Windows 10 and 11 both outpaced XP and I believe that once the OS reaches a user login, that still counts as the OS as booted up.

Other than that, yeah it's really a no-brainer why Windows 11 lost in just about every category except the boot sequence, save being behind 8.1

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

I believe that once the OS reaches a user login, that still counts as the OS as booted up.

This is exactly the kind of gullibility for which the login is displayed before the OS is done booting / starting all background processes. Don't be gullible.

[–] parzival@lemmy.org 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

the problem is that specifically in Windows 11, it isn't booted up when the login is shown, as integral processes aren't started. Some of these include: the start menu, the search menu, file explorer, and many other background processes

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'd consider time from boot to login prompt to be a useless metric. You could design an OS to show a prompt before anything else to "win" this pointless race.

Boot to usable is the only one that makes sense.

Ok, one case where boot to login is useful: you want to boot up and walk away for a bit, so less waiting for a login means you can login before walking away. Though, personally, I find RAM training takes a long time these days if you're not waking from suspend, so still think boot to login is moot.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is important to me. More than "time until login" I'd prefer "time until queue". I want to login before walking away because I want to open certain programs. So if an OS allows me to tell it "after you boot up, open these 3 programs" but hasn't completely booted up, I would prefer it to one that only lets you open programs once it has booted.

And no, configuring so it opens the same programs at startup doesn't count. I wanna choose every time I turn on the computer.

[–] parzival@lemmy.org 1 points 5 days ago

you could almost certainly do this with grub somehow, but yeah I see your point

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I "early adopted" Win 11 when the Ryzen 5600X came out (late 2020 i think?) and it was objectively better at release. All MS had to do was fix the start button and then not fuck with it and I'm sure there would have been way less hatorade flowing.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I "early adopted" Win 11 when the Ryzen 5600X came out (late 2020 i think?) and it was objectively better at release. All MS had to do was insert AI

  • All that Satya Nadella read... probably
[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 5 days ago

also look on the bright side... at least they haven't given Clippy sentience yet!

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

frfr. bill gates must be rolling over in his grave.

[–] sexhaver87@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

i’d like to be in your alternative universe where bill gates dies

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 6 days ago

granted, but now your username is "gouthaver87"

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago

Boy was in the files. He wishing he was dead rn