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Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud — hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud
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I had to sign up for DSL this week in Frankfurt, DE as my neighborhood didn’t have cable or fiber internet. Don’t think that we’re gonna be cloud-ready any time in the next 50 years. DSL. Frankfurt. Major city.
Frankfurt Oder or Frankfurt Main?
Frankfurt am Main, Nied
Yeah but Germany is well known in Europe for being technologically in the stone age.
I remember a time when Skype already existed and we would still pay for long distance phone minutes to call our German relatives because they hadn't updated their internet since the Kaiser was in charge. :-P In the last few years, their speeds are much more comparable to ours.
Satellite TV was much more popular compared to cable generally in European countries, so phone lines make up the bulk of wired networking in a lot of places, making DSL a pretty practical option without having to lay a whole network. I get the feeling in countries where cable is much more common, DSL is reserved for the last resort level of service, whereas in Europe many of the telecoms make sure to deploy the latest standards.
I finally swapped to 1gbps fibre a year or two ago, but before that I was on about 250mbps with G.Fast DSL that honestly wasn't bad at all. I believe the theoretical limits go much higher than that too
I got the first DSL in france, a fucking VCR sized box that fried after a couple of months too... The deal wasn't the incredible 128Kb/s but that it was online all the time...
It quickly doubled up to .5Mb and then slowly up to 20Mb before I went with fiber some maybe 8-9 years ago. But I rarely felt hampered.
It's DSL, so the speed depends on line length. To reliably get 250M you're probably doing fibre to the footpath outside the building.
In the UK, where I believe VDSL and G.Fast both are achieved by putting the equipment in your local "green cabinet" which is the sub distribution between you and your local telephone exchange.
My cabinet is about a 200m straight line from my house, so I was lucky enough that I always got pretty close to whatever speed the telco was selling me.
My parents' place is about 500m or so from theirs and I think they typically got about 70-80% of the "up to" rate on VDSL before they switched to fibre. It used to be more like 50% on regular ADSL/2/2+
I think you have to be kinda rural before you're much further than that from a green cabinet (which of course isn't an insignificant number of people, but I believe per capita it's not typical)
in my rural part of the u.s., the telco only sells dsl to a max of 10 mbps (and as slow as 384kbps if you're at the end of the signal's reach--at which point they also charge you more for the shit-tier speeds).. even if you're literally next door to their central office.. and even if they don't have fiber down your street (which is their reasoning for the artificial limit--to push people towards fiber so they can pull the copper).