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ITT, idealists once again letting perfect be the enemy of good.
It’s worked so well the past few elections.
would only apply if Gavin Newsom was "good".
He is not good, he even denied genocide in Gaza and protected billionaires
And had photo-ops while clearing homeless camps.
He's not Trump, but most of Trump's donors would neither mind nor care.
Don't forget all the transphobia too!
The Democrats have had nothing but people like Newsom since the 1980s but you think that’s the best course of action? He was invited there because he would only talk about cultural grievances and not the economic ones that the wealthy are currently causing.
Nobody wants perfect. A neoliberal Democrat winning will just continue the kleptocracy while lying to us about it. Bill Clinton, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are controlled opposition.
Also, Ben Shapiro, the lying little shit ran circles around him on Newsom’s podcast. Made him seem like a weak bitch.
Before then tbh
Plus Newsom had his chance in 2024, when we needed a winnable candidate and he decided it was better to let the country fall than be accused of stepping over a minority woman, nevermind the fact she was massively unpopular and running as the status quo while republicans ran as reform. That biden's presidency was a shit show, people wanted a change, and they didn't know better than to not vote for the republicans.
Seriously, it's not just he doesn't deserve it, that he would not be popular enough to end the fascist threat and restore the republic, it's that he won't be popular enough to win, not the least with republicans cheating every way they can. At most he will ask the courts to let him have the election and they will say no.
That's on the voters for not participating in primaries...
Stop saying that bullshit nonsense. He is not “good”. We don’t demand perfection, we demand that these people don’t be genocidal right wing fascist light.
I hate whatever pundit told you all to say “dont let perfect be the enemy of good.” It makes me feel like I’m talking to a bunch of programmed robots.
He is a corpocrate. A shill for the wealthy. He represents the white moderates.
MLK advocated for some pretty radical changes to our society. Not just racial equality. We need the white moderates to lose their investments, or they won’t really help. They have too much to lose, they think maybe tomorrow would be more opportune.
Same then, same now.
This is exactly the time to be going after libs like Newsom. Move the party left before primaries.
I actually agree with you. But experience tells me we’re too principled and undisciplined to support any candidate after the primaries.
I agree with that. Both voters and politicians share the blame for Trump being in office. Democrats fail to run good candidates, but voters refuse to have their voices heard in primaries as well as thinking that doing a "protest vote" in generals is useful.
The options have been rather poor, let's all be honest here. This would work if we were talking about say, AOC. Newsom, however, is bad. Very bad.
Pritzker is fairly good.
I will support him as far as it supports positive movement. I will criticize him otherwise. Same with every neo-liberal before him, and will continue with every neo-liberal after him.
Fetterman/Gabbard 2028! Yes we can!!1!
why would you post such an ugly thing
The fucker is a democrat trump.
Idealists are letting perfect be the enemy of the good but I don't think that's why Democrats underperformed. Neither Clinton nor Biden/Harris were idealists of this sort (despite some stuff Harris said but didn't mean back in the 2020 primaries) and they didn't lose elections because of a lack of support from the idealists. So IMO while the idealists aren't helping, the very much non-idealistic institutions of the Democratic party which prioritize seniority within the party over electability are to blame.
Considering how close both 2016 and 2024 were, don't be so sure.
Oh look someone else pushing and autocrat with a blue paint job instead of red, telling us to pre submit to an obviously terrible choice. Being better than the worst option doesn't make him by any means, good.
It’s bizarre. People don’t learn to negotiate or accept half a load of bread when offered.
The last few elections had historically unpopular, zero charisma candidates who all had policy positions so far right, they weren't just to the right of the dem voter base, they were to the right of the average American...
Acting like anyone more liberal than Ronald Reagan was the problem is actively harmful, be cause yelling out voters to shut up and vote blue no matter who won't actually solve anything.
And as we saw with Biden, at a certain point the absence of more harm isnt enough.
We need someone "progressive" enough to actually try and implement a solution.
Even the voting members of the DNC realized that a year ago...