Bernie Sanders has been repeatedly uttering the phrase “Israel has a right to defend itself” on his “Fighting Oligarchy” tour with Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, which in the year 2025 can only be interpreted as blatant genocide apologia.
Israel does not have “a right to defend itself” against an occupied population in a giant concentration camp. Under international law it has a right to end the occupation, and that’s it. “Israel has a right to defend itself” is just a slogan people say when they want to justify supplying an ongoing genocide.
Sanders has been mixing his support for Israel in with periodic criticisms of Netanyahu and the Israeli government’s actions in Gaza, always taking care to make his criticisms about the behavior of Israel’s current leadership and not the nature of the racist apartheid state itself.
Sanders is doing this for two reasons. Firstly, he is working to galvanize a big tent inclusive coalition of Democrats in opposition to Trump, and he wants that big tent to include people who think genocide is bad and people who think genocide is fine. He doesn’t want to offend the pro-genocide liberals.
Secondly, Sanders is doing this because he himself is a Zionist. Like other liberal Zionists, Bernie Sanders upholds a vision of an Israel that has never, ever existed: one which remains an ethnostate dominated by Jews, but which conducts itself in a kind and just manner, without constantly murdering and abusing Palestinians.
This iteration of the state of Israel is a fiction. An imaginary fantasyland, like Narnia. Everything about Israel is stacked against the possibility of such a status quo ever emerging, and Israel has always done everything it can to prevent the creation of a Palestinian state. By pretending it is possible to have the Zionist entity and also have peace and justice, liberal Zionists help manufacture public consent for continuing to feed weapons to the genocidal apartheid state of Israel.
There appear to be a lot of Nazis in it and they should get out.
Brother. You can go and read my entire post history and you’ll see I’ve been nothing but anti Israeli Zionism and pro-Palestine and I think you’re reaching here.
Furthermore, you’re watering down the term Nazi by throwing it around so liberally. I think you should go and do some introspection about how you converse with people.
Do you believe Israel has the right to exist?
Instigators of conflict dont get to claim self defense.
Thats well established across most of the world's legal frameworks. Also, oppressed peoples are entitled to rebel, even armed rebellion. Thats in the UN charter and the universal declaration of human rights in addition to international humanitarian law. When the US signs treaties -- like the founding of the UN, they become bound by those within US law.
Israel was founded using irgun terrorism (no one debates this, not even the zionists) and so should never have been founded, and does not have any inherent right to continue to exist in its current form. War crimes regimes must be ended for basic human dignity to exist. The site Israel sits on should be either returned to the remainder of the Ottoman empire, or given back to the UN to be arbitrated by the world-- after the veto has been removed from the UN charter, of course. The world has moved past the existing security council and the seven permanenet members cant be trusted with veto power.
If Bernie cant agree with this then things have to change. Progressives arent a member of Bernie, Bernie is a member of progressives, and he doesnt own the brand, we collectively do. He follows the basic tenets of progressivism whether he agrees to them or not, or he gets the boot. Political parties have tolerated cult of personality rebellions with the party platform way too much, which is what brought us to this crisis. Bernie needs to bend to progressivism or be thanked for his service and ejected.
Well spoken.