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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The best you can do is control it for a time.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, sorry, this is incorrect. There are much more efficient and fair modes of production out there. Case in point would be Cuba, or China. The leaps and bounds they've made in spite of the largest and most murderous economic power in the world trying to sabotage them every step of the way should be evidence enough of that.

[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee -4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The most efficient mode of production doesn’t really matter if you want your economy to thrive, helping the working class does, and China is now better at than than the US. That’s why they’re doing well, not because they’re less capitalist. Capitalism can help the working class more than hurt it just as easily as not.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sorry but here again you're just wrong on a factual level. China is not capitalist. Read whatever Cowbee writes, they're usually good at explaining things.

[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee -5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

There are no capitalists in China, China itself is the capitalist.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

No, it makes dollars!

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

You're a very entertaining poster

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I think I see the confusion. A capitalist is someone who owns a significant amount of capital. China obviously has capitalists. Liberalism is the philosophy of capitalism. China does have liberals, but there's been some pushback over the last decade or so.

[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee -1 points 3 days ago

Since Tiananmen Square.