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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 173 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (23 children)

It seems to me that every major conflict (Russia, Middle East) spikes oil prices, relatively unpredictably (if you can call this unpredictable).

Maybe the world should look for alternative sources of energy, which are abundant, cheap, and can be deployed non centrally?

No. No that’s insane.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These prices are literally controlled by price-fixing cartels.

But Europe is investing hundreds of billions in North Sea wind farms to generate hydrogen for heating, it was initiated by Putin's actions.

https://www.cip.com/projects/our-projects/hydrogen-island/

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 18 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Now we just have to hope that people dont dig up this bullshit idea of using hydrogen to heat your own house.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

There's really nothing wrong with generating hydrogen when power costs are negative.

Except that only happens like 500 hours a year.

And hydrogen will leak from any tank.

And it turns metal brittle.

And I wouldn't trust my neighbor with a propane tank, let alone hydrogen.

And its nearly impossible to transport through existing infrastructure.

But other than that, its great!

[–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You forgot about the part where the possibility of generating hydrogen cleanly from electricity later is used as an excuse to build infrastructure and fuel-cell cars for it now, even though hydrogen now is dirty hydrogen produced by cracking fossil fuels.

I have no confidence that the second phase of switching to electrolysis would actually happen, and that "the hydrogen economy" isn't just a greenwashing scam perpetrated by natural gas producers.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

What's that? I couldn't hear you over the nonstop greenwashing of gas cracking plants.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Wow! so glad we have clean coal now!

[–] Hypx@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Most of your claims are just climate change denial arguments. Many of them were directly made up by the fossil fuel industry.

[–] runblack@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

I always love the stupidity of this idea: You were able to generate pure hydrogen at high costs... Now what should we do with it? Well lets just do what we did since the middle ages and burn it!

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Craziest implementation? Burn the hydrogen in your home. But not in a furnace. Burn it in a mechanical combustion-powered heat pump!😁

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago

🎡🎡🎡🎡🎡

The Gang Heat Their House With Hydrogen

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Like, in place of natural gas?

[–] manxu@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

But think of the fireworks! /s

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

The pedofile parasite class says no

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Whatever comes next Iβ€˜m prepared to be deeply disappointed by my government and our European partners on this. β€žMake gas cheaperβ€œ is probably at the very top of every leaderβ€˜s to do list tomorrow.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, but power sources that don't spew fumes are for limp-wristed queers. /s

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Sta1kERR@piefed.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why is this downvoted? This guy is technically correct.Β 

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because Lemmy. Facts lose to feels.

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