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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 210 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Man, I really hate being on the Axis side. I hope we lose.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 118 points 1 month ago (3 children)

We already lost. Trump got bullied/suckered by Israel into this mess without a clearly defined American win scenario. Israel has one and they are getting it. The US does not, because Trump is weak and catastrophically dumb, ignorant, narcissistic, and incompetent.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

We... we lost two THAAD radar arrays, already.

https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/irgc-destroys-second-us-thaad-system-uae-radar-qatar-early-warning-iran-missile-dominance/

We... can't intercept too many missiles without those.

They're like $1.5 billion USD each, roughly adjusted for inflation.

And... I think there were only like, 12 of these things, total. Anywhere. As of a week ago.

We reportedly have been trying to take away the one we use in South Korea, to redeploy it.

This is ... beyond completely tits up.

Trump is saying the US Navy will just escort any willing vessel through the Strait of Hormuz.

And... what, we're gonna use all our fleet defensive systems, to .... shoot down the missiles that Iran can build 10x faster than we can build interceptors?

Taiwan is now completely fucked, if anyone hasn't figured that out yet, we will now almost certainly not have enough missiles to repel an invasion from the PLAN and PLAAF.

This is... extremely bad situation, if you are generally a fan of yourself and other people not dieing a violent death.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They're moving at least one from S Korea to replace one of the destroyed ones. Hopefully it gets blown up too.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Found a link:

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/defense/20260304/iran-war-raises-prospect-of-shifting-usfk-assets-to-middle-east

They are of course downplaying the certainty of it, which I am... skeptical of, I think they did at the very least try or plan to, but, I also cannot yet find an actual confirmation that it is being redeployed.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

That's fucked. Kim Jong Un probably has a boner reading about this

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Double post, but...

Its confirmed.

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/defense/20260310/us-moving-parts-of-thaad-anti-missile-system-from-s-korea-to-middle-east-report

The United States has been moving parts of its Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) anti-missile system from South Korea to the Middle East, the Washington Post reported, citing two officials.

The reported movement of parts of a THAAD missile defense system comes amid media reports that the U.S. military stationed in South Korea has shipped out some of its military assets amid an intensifying war in the Middle East.

"The Pentagon is moving parts of a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system from South Korea to the Middle East," the report said.

https://www.chosun.com/english/world-en/2026/03/10/MSS6VLC4ARGEZPD6W7NJNFJ344/

The United States, engaged in a war with Iran, has begun relocating part of its Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system deployed in South Korea to the Middle East, the Washington Post (WP) reported on the 9th (local time), citing two U.S. Department of Defense officials.

The South Korean THAAD system appears to be being at least partially dismantled and redeployed.

... against the wishes of South Korea.

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/defense/20260310/s-korea-regrets-transfer-of-usfk-air-defense-assets-to-middle-east-lee-says

The Korean government has expressed its opposition to the transfer of some U.S. Forces Korea (USFK) air defense weapons to the Middle East, President Lee Jae Myung said Tuesday, but stressed that the move will not weaken the country’s deterrence against North Korea.

Speaking at the beginning of a Cabinet meeting in Cheong Wa Dae, Lee addressed the growing debate over reports that some U.S. air defense batteries stationed in Korea have been transferred abroad.

“We have expressed opposition to USFK transferring some air defense weapons according to its own military needs, but it is also the reality that we cannot fully enforce our position,” the president said.

“If you ask whether this creates serious obstacles for our deterrence strategy against North Korea, I can say with certainty that it does not,” he said.

I mean uh, pressing X to Doubt on that last part, obviously you would say "Don't worry, everything is fine," ... but yeah, we, the US, appear to be using the South Korean system for parts, and SK President Lee says he can't stop us from doing so.


Meanwhile, Trump is utterly losing his shit, and in, what, less than two weeks?, has gone from 'we are going to let Iran liberate itself' to 'we will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back as a nation'.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116202054617775180

If Iran does anything that stops the flow of Oil within the Strait of Hormuz, they will be hit by the United States of America TWENTY TIMES HARDER than they have been hit thus far. Additionally, we will take out easily destroyable targets that will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back, as a Nation, again — Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen! This is a gift from the United States of America to China, and all of those Nations that heavily use the Hormuz Strait. Hopefully, it is a gesture that will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP

... back when Trump did Midnight Hammer, the strike against the nuclear sites in Iran, I compared him to Kefka... evil whiny clown.

Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen!

This is completely insane. This is the logic of an abusive husband, but directly applied to 10s of millions of people, applied by a man with hundreds to thousands of nuclear weapons.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/us-military-operates-e-6b-mercury-mission-to-maintain-nuclear-triad-communications-during-emergencies/ar-AA1XNCv9

Flight trackers detected the Boeing E-6B Mercury, a U.S. aircraft used for nuclear command and control, flying over the Gulf of Mexico on March 9, 2026. The military uses the aircraft, often called a “doomsday plane,” as an airborne backup command center if ground systems fail. Observers often interpret its appearance on public flight trackers as a signal that the U.S. nuclear deterrent remains active.

...

Its main purpose is to send secure messages to submarines carrying ballistic missiles. Communicating with submarines is difficult because they operate deep under the ocean, where normal radio signals cannot easily travel through seawater.

... To overcome this challenge, the E-6B Mercury uses very low frequency radio signals that can reach submarines while they remain submerged. The aircraft deploys long trailing wire antennas during flight to transmit these signals. This system ensures submarines remain connected to command authorities and continue to serve as a highly survivable part of the nuclear deterrent.

https://www.wionews.com/world/trump-deploys-doomsday-nuclear-command-planes-to-west-asia-amid-ww3-fears-1773071562944

Flight-tracking data has captured multiple launches of the Navy's E-6B Mercury strategic airborne command aircraft since the war in Iran began, the Daily Mail reported.

Two E-6B Mercury flights were spotted over the US on March 2, one travelling from the Gulf Coast and landing at Naval Air Station Patuxent River in Maryland, and the other taking off and later landing back at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, according to the Daily Mail.

Since those flights, there have been reports from military news outlets of more E-6B launches heading across the Atlantic to the Persian Gulf.


If we do not stop this demented idiot and his regime, we will responsible for destroying the world as we know it.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're not only squandering their position as a global leader and the good will of our allies, but the military might and defensive capabilities too.

They're literally going to make the continental US vulnerable to attack by wasting so many resources in this pointless war of aggression.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Being in Canada, I'm feeling so much relief now. My fear of dying soon isn't entirely gone, but I'm feeling more hopeful.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

It's pretty sad that the world is at a point where Canadians can feel relieved that the US is bombing Iran because it takes the heat off themselves for a little while...

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Some are saying that this is a brilliant tactic by Trump. They took Venezuela, where China gets much of their oil, and now we've blocked Hormuz, where China gets the rest of its oil. They think this will crush China.

But China still has about a 100 day reserve. When that runs out, they will do something to get leverage for more oil - like take Taiwan. They need the oil, we need the chips. We've always worried about them taking Taiwan, and now Trump is going to force their hand with his "brilliant" chess playing.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Doesn't China still have access to Russian oil? Or does it go through the Strait of Hormuz too?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Back when MAGA 2.0.was starting, and the Wrestling Bitch (I'm being nice) took over as Secty of Destruction of Education, and she did an interview where she kept saying that the standards at the Dept of Ed were going to be A-1, and eventually it was clear that she had read something about AI being used, but since she had never heard of AI, because she's stupid, she thought it meant A-1, and proceeded to demonstrate just how stupid she really is.

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

"I'm sorry, you are totally right! Bombing Iran was a mistake. I will keep that in mind in future conversations.

What would you like to discuss next? Whether planning a new golf course to build in Gaza, drafting a proposal for a larger-than-life-sized golden statue of yourself to go as a centerpiece for your ballroom, or brainstorming ways to distract the news cycle from the Epstein files, my circuits are warmed up and ready to assist you! ⚡🤖🧠 beep boop"

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

People who will win: defense contractors, evangelical christians with investments in Israel, oil companies that can pull the "make money" lever at whim, saudi princes and everyone who is going to shore up around the capitalist might of US/Israel's war machine.

People who will lose: anyone who needs insulin, food or childcare.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No body is going to win this. Everyone loses.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not true! The uber rich win...

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

idk even that long term.

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Generally agree, but if China plays their hand well, they could do alright/ lead the following century.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its been pretty shitty under the US, I dont want to live under china's leadership either

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not advocating it. They just seem removed enough from the hot conflicts at the moment to weather the coming moment. If the discussion about this+Venezuela being a pincer move targeting China's oil supply pans out and/or they move on Taiwan, I guess that could change.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

China has geographical problems that hamstring it against American Empire.

Until/unless they build a blue water navy that can blockade America or an alliance system that can shut us out of the indo-pacific, they are fucked in a straight up conflict.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I hope that we do an Itlay

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

US is doing an evil playthrough.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We've always been doing an evil playthrough.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sometimes america does something right. Normally someone else is doing something way worse though. Holocaust stopping is good points in my book.

[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it was Churchill who said the Americans will do the right thing after they've exhausted all other options.

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We basically only did it to stop the great depression, though, not for altruistic reasons.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It was a power grab. The US intervened softly to stop the growth of the third Reich into a hegemon, funding Britain, France, and the Soviet Union.

When Japan hit Pearl harbor Roosevelt was forced to war and honestly he and his team were probably itching to get in there are flex American power to shape events directly. Truman finished things out trying to box in the soviets once it was clear the allies were gonna win.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

name any war where anyone wins.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The usa did pretty fucking well after ww2

[–] Zink@programming.dev 15 points 1 month ago

Americans born in the 40s and 50s had such a gilded path set out before them by WW2, and now they think that young people can't afford homes because of starbucks and avocado toast.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

The British did ok after the second Boer War.

The empire of Japan did fairly well after the Russo-Japanese War in 1905.

The empire of Japan also did great after WW1 come to think of it.

The states did enjoy the Spanish–American war result.

Really kinda requires a strange mind or a willfully ignorant one to not recognize that wars often have winners and that is a reason they keep happening.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ww2 turned the US into the world's premier power. In 1945 half the world's GDP was in the United States and the US Navy was larger than the rest of the wold's navies combined.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

That all actually started after World War 1, to be honest.

It was during the first world war that all of the European powers spent literally all their money fighting each other, with both sides then reaching out to the United States for loans to continue fighting each other, which America was of course happy to oblige.

The repayment of those loans constituted the largest transfer of wealth in human history from Europe to the Americas, setting the stage for the American war machine to be completed prior to world war two.