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40% of teenage boys believe women lie about domestic and sexual violence: new research
(theconversation.com)
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Holy engagement bait, Batman! What a terrible headline.
Yes, it is a fact that women lie about domestic and sexual violence. I've seen first-hand a family seriously impacted by a false accusation. The son was detained in prison for a year, the parents took out a mortgage on their home to defend the case and finally the girl admitted in court that she fabricated the whole thing. The son was acquitted. These cases happen. Here's a fairly broad paper on the matter discussing several deeper studies spanning several countries including Australia, Canada and the UK.
With that out of the way, let's move on to the elephant in the room:
IN OVER 90% OF CASES, THE RAPES WERE CREDIBLE! FALSE ACCUSATIONS ARE THE EXCEPTION!!
Engagement shit like this is so dangerous. Impressionable minds in the target demographic will read the headline and be pushed towards radicalization against women because "apparently it's worse than I thought".
I would see a headline like this push people more towards radicalisation against young men, not against women.
Were there consequences for the accuser?
I had an accuser in college who got kicked out after she accused multiple other men and it was investigated and the cops got involved.
The reason she accused me is she came on to me and I rejected her. So she told people I sexually harassed her and tried to force he to have sex with me.
I haven't had any other accusations like that in my life, thankfully. But I have had dating encounters where I either rejected a woman sexually, or simple didn't want to have sex with her that night, and she became hostile and made threats, including saying she would report me for sexual assault.
The scariest one was a woman I went on a couple of dates with, thought was cool but she got really really like falling down drunk on one of our dates and she insisted on coming home with me. I ended up just putting her to bed on my couch. The next morning she was gone, and send me this crazy nasty texts about how if I was a 'real man' I'd have raped her and she is going to post all about me on the internet because she knows my name and address (she actually didn't know my name). Even when you do the right thing as a guy, for some women, it's the wrong thing because you didn't rape her and she feels rejected.
AFAIK usually not directly, but wrongful accusers sometimes get sued back for defamation.
So far as I know, nothing (legally). She wasn't on trial. Something may have happened to her later, but I don't think so. I think I'd have heard if it had.
Of course: everyone who knew her knew about the whole case and its outcome. It would be an inaccurate statement to say she faced no consequences at all. Everyone - male and female alike, was furious with her. And I expect the story follows her around 20 years later whenever anyone Googles her.
Almost nothing. Feminist organisations lobby hard to ensure there are no consequences because "it might discourage real victims from coming forward." They don't care how many men have their lives ruined.
men aren't people to feminist organizations. they are only sources of evil, so if bad things happen to them then they deserved it anyways. there are many feminists who basically think ruining innocent man's life is a 'noble sacrifice' men have to endure as long as rape exists and innocent men are guilty by association of allowing other men to rape women...
Tbf that's lies that make it to court, I've been lied about and had friends also be lied about, but the girls (we were all kids at the time) didn't take it to court, they just tried to assassinate our character and get us shunned for life by everyone we knew without involving the system that would make them prove anything.
Thankfully in my case I had witnesses and in my buddy's he had an alibi, but still, it's a pretty rude thing to lie about. But I think most of the lies shake out like that, they usually don't get reported to the actual authorities, just circulated like a rumor.
this is why i hate the “believe women” thing….
the problem was people not believing women by default… that’s objectively terrible.
doing the exact opposite is also terrible.
(i’ve seen a false accusation too… i also know of people who were SA’d with no investigation and nobody caring)
i’ve also never heard of someone being prosecuted for a false accusation either… it’s all terrible
Wait, I'm probably restarted for not understanding it but does the author claim that 10.9% to 2.1% is 'consistent'?
The full paper would give better context of that statement. It's quite accessible and worth reading. The thing that is consistent across all studies, nations and decades is that false accusations are rare.
It turns out this is actually a fairly difficult topic to accurately measure if for no other reason that a lot of cases (Particularly earlier ones) boil down to 'he said, she said'. Then there is the matter that lots of sexual assault cases go unreported - or are dropped for assorted reasons. Unreported assaults are a huge factor among certain cultural groups.