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Trump’s call for allied deployment to strait of Hormuz meets muted response
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 15 Mar 2026
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This is really stupid, just from a strategic point of view, let alone from a moral or political perspective. Sending ships into the Strait just puts those ships in the line of fire...so, why would anyone actually agree to send ships there?
Iran has the "high ground" here. There is no way for ships to take back control of the Strait this way. All the US is doing, is asking allies to take losses for no reason.
My opinion is he knows ships will be sunk so he wants it to be someone else's ships. Let's not forget Iran has a ton of mini submarines probably sitting quietly waiting.
Or… he’s asking them to take losses because he doesn’t consider them allies. World conquest would be easier with the Chinese and UK navies out of the way.
The fact he included China is the funniest part. Chinese ships are already passing through the strait with Iran's blessing, why the fuck would they ever help lmfao
He really thinks the Chinese navy is going to help?
He loses nothing by asking….
He's lost any shred of credibility he might have had.
But he already had…
Yes. Nothing.
I lose nothing by asking out Angelina Jolie but she's going to say no and I'm going to look like a twit.
Trump already looks like a twit though.
Yep. The only way to actually take control of the strait is a bunch of ships and occupying/controlling all the nearby land within drone/missile/artillery range.
Not sending ships is harming the economy and preventing gas and energy going where it is needed. Also forcing it to be flared of potentially.
There are obvious reasons one might want to put assets at risk to prevent that. And benefit from shipments.
The billions we would lose if one of our aircraft carriers were to be sunk is not a price worth paying for slightly cheaper fuel.
Besides, a few days ago Don said he didn't need us.
It's not slightly cheaper fuel and a hull loss of a carrier seems unlikely unless being truly daft.
It's less about fuel being expensive and more about it being available. Otherwise some will go without and the poor tend to suffer the most in affordability crises.
Also I didn't say you should. Just that it ain't cut and dry.
Any naval ship in the strait is a sitting duck to AS missiles and drones. Sending British military personnel to risk death defending Trump's distraction from the epstein files is unacceptable.
I feel like you are not listening to my point and instead panicking headlessly.
I am listening to your point.
I'm disagreeing with it. The USA started this pointless war for vanity reasons. I don't want to see British troops put in unnecessary danger.
The only way to stop the attacks would be for America and Israel to occupy the coastal areas and mountains of Iran. Or to surrender.
A naval ship sailing near an oil tanker isn't going to accomplish anything.
I didn't even say Britain should deploy. Or do so ineffectually.
Yes but the whole topic is about deployment of other forces, including UK ones.
Yes. And I said it's not trivial whether or not to deploy as there are in fact valid arguments for both. It is not as easy as conflict bad = no deployment, cause people might die.
I hear you.
And this is where we disagree. For us (the UK) it really should be that simple.
This is an illegal war started for spurious reasons that keep changing.
Sending British military personnel to participate in anything other than defensive operations of British assets and interests in the region (such as Cyprus) should be the absolute limit of our involvement.
Sending British ships into a 21 mile wide channel where they're at the mercy of ASM and drones from Iran, for me its an absolute no brainer. Trump only wants us involved to try and share the blame for when it goes wrong. And I woildnt be surprised if he wants us as cannon fodder
Maybe a certain subset of the US population with have incentive to not act like ignorant fucking clowns when voting the next time if gas gets expensive.
The mental cage you have, is that the war needs to continue.
Fuel prices aren't going up at the moment because we have reserves. It's likely that Trump will give up before those run out in 6 months time, so why risk the assets?
3 weeks ago I could get diesel at €1.60/l.
Now it is over €2 per litre and I am in the weird situation today I cannot fill my tank from empty because the bank does not pre-authorise enough. So fuel prices have absolutely gone up, at least to consumers in rural France, which is all I personally care about.
Fuel prices have gone up by about a third or more. I have no idea where you live but to me this just sounds plainly untrue, since other countries and economies are suffering. And about 20% of global production stopping is obviously a thing.
I didn't say that it's not having an effect, I said the effect is not as bad right now as it is for the US because the US doesn't have access to its oil reserves well actually it does have access to its oil reserves but the administration won't use it because there's hardly any left but it amounts to the same thing.
Local diesel prices in the USA have jumped $1.50 in two weeks. So far.
Yes but the thing about countries that are not the US is they're not affected by prices in the US. That's why I said that we're basing prices on the oil reserve that we have. Obviously that can't last forever but if there is one thing Trump is famous for it's giving up when things get marginally difficult.