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It's a common Israeli talking point to associate any critique of their government with antisemitism.
It's very transparent.
It's the same people acting as mouthpieces that are silent when Israel actually targets hospitals or their soldiers torture babies and rape prisoners. Hard to pretend they aren't the ones indoctrinated to hate a specific set of people.
Your hate towards anyone that isnt subservient to Israel has turned a massively shitty theocratic regime into some kind of weird underdog worth cheering for.
It's like if Italy and Germany were fighting in WW2 and you dont understand why people are cheering on Italy, but even more, you actually think the Nazis are the good guys. Everyone else is simply going "they both suck but one is clearly worse than the other, because of the genocide and all".
Put all the quotes that you like but you are either against Zionism or pro genocide.
It's also a common anti-semite talking point to declare clear-as-day anti-semitism as anti-zionism.
Very transparent.
And btw. I am against zionism while still being able to tell that it's a bad thing to slaughter civilians. Wonder why you aren't.
Israel’s & Israeli sympathizer’s labeling of antisemitism for all criticisms is making that phrase meaningless. They’re putting jewish people at risk by hiding behind it.
Just own it, people are hating on that country because they commit war crimes, warmonger nonstop, and use mossad to run pedo rings to influence / control their “allies” governments—then pretend to be the victim.
Has nothing to do with the faith of the people.
Point me towards a comment where you have been critical of Israel bombing hospitals in Lebanon, bombing refugee camps in Palestine or causing over 1000 civilian deaths in Iran these past few weeks.
I know it's a bad thing to kill civilians. That's why I'm against the country that goes out of its way to do it. Israel revels in civilian deaths.
cool so we are in agreement as to my initial comment that it is fucked up to cheer dead civilians.
This comment is why I can't take you at your word when you say you're against all civilian deaths.
Not only do you not have any proof to give, which might be explainable by you not getting the chance to make such a comment just yet. But instead of simply explaining why and using this chance to call out Israel for their atrocities against civilians, you decided to focus on one part of the comment so you can avoid criticising Israel while claiming the moral high ground.
This is a very typical Zionist tactic which is convincing me more and more that you are not arguing in good faith. I can still be wrong, but you're not making it easy for me to trust you.
In this case, all the victims are disproportionately Zionists, so what you're claiming is the less likely thing to be happening here. It's also very transparent when Zionists try to hide behind the Jew identity so they can avoid consequences for their actions, you know?
There is no possible way for you to know that. You are basing this assumption exclusively where these people happened to have been born.
There are polls showing the majority of Israelis consider themselves Zionists. For example.
I want to say you're just uninformed, but I'm way too used to the way Zionists argue to recognise when they are just acting like they don't know so they can make false arguments that aren't based on any facts.
And I am sure you would classify "The Jerusalem Post" as a trustworthy source as well, when it doesn't conform with your views, yes?
Also they asked some 500 people out of almost 10 million Israelis.
I repeat myself: there is no way to know weather the killed civilians were zionists. And even if they were, murdering civilians is bad, regardless of who they are or who does the killing.
Do you classify them as an untrustworthy source when it doesn't conform to your world view? I treat them as a source that I compare with other sources.
Do you know how polls are made? 500 people is enough to get an insight into the trends inside a population. There are other factors that affect the accuracy more than having more people surveyed. You're free to analyze their methodology and come up with an argument for why it invalidates the result.
Like I said, they are more likely to have been Zionists than anti-Zionists, given the proof I've provided. Never did I claim they all are Zionists. I also never even claimed murdering civilians is a positive thing. All I did was disprove your claim that the anti-Zionists sentiment here are caused by antisemitism.
Also, you avoided giving proof that you had made comments calling out Israel for killing civilians in multiple countries when the other guy asked for it, so forgive me for doubting your position that you are against all civilian death. The way you argue are far too reminiscent to the way Zionists do for me to take your word for it.
No, you were implying antizionism = antisemitism.
Btw, cheering for civilian deaths because they are part of a genocidal regime doesn't make it antisemitism just because they happen to be Jewish. I don't approve of it but the distinction has to be made in any case.
So yes obviously, murdering civilians is bad, but it's not worse because they are Jewish. One side also happens to be a lot better at it, and it shouldn't be ignored because the murderers are Jewish.
Religion has nothing to do with it in the end, I just want to be clear because your main point revolves around it, mostly because your a Mossad propaganda account that's trying to muddy the waters.
No I wasn't. I was saying that cheering for dead jewish civilians is anti-semitism because these people would not cheer for dead civilians of other countries, like russia for example.
Why do you think they are cheering because they are Jewish and not because they are a part of a genocidal regime that's shown itself to be the worlds greatest evil of the past decade or two?
I don't approve of the cheering but do you really think everyone is too stupid to see the spin you are trying to pull with it? Pathetic.
Russians don't get to vote. It's a dictatorship and they are all suffering under Putin. Israelis on the other hand, voted for and supported genocide.
And you're making this assertion based on which data?