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TF do you mean "apologist?" Hamas being a (and, in fact, by far the biggest) Palestinian armed resistance organization and the fact they do a lot of evil shit are two facts that can be true at the same time. That doesn't mean supporting Hamas is victimizing Israel.
It kinda does tho. Hamas, in one form or another, has been attacking Isreal for many decades. Isreal has been attacking Gaza and Lebanon and other Arab countries for decades too. They're all victims of each other and a product of an unfortunate history. There have even been some serious attempts at peaceful resolution, which always get fucked up by one side or the other, or usually both. Yes I 100% agree that isreal's actions are unacceptable and horrific. But they are also victims. Just like the people of Gaza could have voted for a government that strived for a peaceful solution, but chose a violent one - but they are still victims of the result.
Because there were so many free and fair elections in Gaza.
There was one. And they chose Hamas. One of Hamas' platforms was that they'd abolish democracy. And they won.
Do you seriously believe there was a free and fair election in Gaza? Jesus ...
One doesn't become a victim due to being attacked; it takes being unjustly attacked to make one a victim. This makes certain individual Israeli civilians victims, but not Israel as a whole.
With all due respect, this is the most historically illiterate thing I've read today. The only reason Hamas even exists is the complete and utter failure of peaceful solutions. And of course they failed; what, did you also expect the Irish or Algerians to strive for peaceful solutions? Rejecting peaceful solutions has been Israeli policy for longer than Israel existed. Hell, the current state of the West Bank should tell you all you need to know about what "striving for peaceful solutions" looks like,.
No I expect the Irish to keep fighting to this day and bomb people in London next week. Never stop fighting!!!! /s?
WTF?
Look back at the history, there have been plenty of peace talks scuppered by the Palestinians extremists (just as there have been by the Israeli extremists).
Yes, Isreal is totally fucked in the way they attack Palestinians. And visa versa. Both sides can claim tat for tit going a long way back. But unless we find a way to realize violence on BOTH SIDES is bad, it's not going to be possible to find a solution.
Are you fucking kidding me? The Irish got an acceptable settlement in Good Friday, so they're not bombing London anymore. They bombed the shit out of Brits and Loyalists before Good Friday, which is what Palestinians are doing. The Irish didn't get their freedom by fucking magic.
Example? If there are many, give what you consider the best example.
Then what are Palestinians supposed to do? Pray? When peaceful resistance fails, violent resistance becomes the only solution. Violence is only bad if there's another option available; no such thing is available to Palestinians. Again, have you seen the state of the West Bank? That's what the peace you're asking for looks like. Your refusal acknowledge this means your position is built on magical thinking divorced from reality.
And Isreal thinks the same thing, that they need to use violence to stop Hamas from firing rockets at them. And yes it's a lopsided war (putting it mildly) - all the more reason for Palestinians to keep trying for a peaceful solution, I would think. Both side are violent. Isreal is more in control right now, so yes, I put the onus on them to find a peaceful solution. And they're obviously not doing that right now which makes them pure evil. What should the Palestinians do? Have voted for peace when they had a chance, and not do the Oct attacks, and keep pushing for human rights. But we're past that now, so I honestly don't know. But if the chance comes up where Isreal looks for a peaceful solution, I would hope that Hamas stops firing rockets at them.
You seem to have no concrete idea for what should be (or even have been) done. You should have one if you want to have a conversation about this. And no, "vote for peace" (the fuck does that even mean) and "keep pushing for human rights" (see before) don't count. Your current position is basically "if Palestinians are nice they'll get a happy ending through the power of friendship."
Then, no offense, everything you just said is worthless. You can't condemn violent resistance without having a realistic proposal for peaceful resistance.
That's the whole point of the rockets. Hamas pretty much accepts a two-state solution (though in different terms, because Hamas considers Israel illegitimate and refuses to recognize it).
And if that's how they feel, fine keep ratcheting up the violence and either live that way forever or until one side simple can no longer because they're all dead or wounded. Some f'n crazy, but if that's what you really want ...