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Yes there absolutely is and always will be a question on who the best fucking plumber is.
"BEST" isn't some kind of universally defined state of being. What's "BEST" is completely fucking subjective and SHOULD be determined by a network of experts or peers, as that's likely how your are determining what's BEST for you.
As THAT IS HOW EVERYONE DEFINES WHAT IS "BEST."
Whose the best plumber in your area?
Did you check Google? And find someone with 500 reviews that are all 5 stars?
How about Yelp?
How about the Better Business Bureau?
Wow. Every single resource available that can determine who the "BEST" plumber is comes from a collection of unique inputs from others that have a shared experience of using that plumber. All whose collected perspectives on Google reviews let a sentient jar of mayonnaise like yourself determine who the BEST plumber is.
Whats BEST is completely subjective at best, and not easily determined by anyone but a panel of experts which you clearly use without noticing on a near daily basis.
At worst, BEST is an ever changing non-existing state that can never be determined without other fixed inputs.
Whose the BEST basketball player?
Is it Michael Jordan or LeBron James?
ARE BOTH THE "BEST" DEPENDING ON HOW THAT QUESTION IS ASKED?
Oh shit, looks like you need additional input to determine what the BEST even is in literally every single interpretation of it imaginable.
Maybe you should hire a panel of experts to figure out who THE BEST IS at that moment. Or maybe a massively broad review of everyone's opinion to determine from the masses who the BEST IS TO THEM.
OH SHIT THAT'S DEMOCRACY AND THE OBVIOUS FUCKING BENEFITS THAT ADDED EXPERTISE AND PERSPECTIVE PROVIDES.
What is BEST isn't simple to determine at all. Your entire argument is garbage. And based on a laughably dumb and short sighted perspective that doesn't hold up to the most basic scrutiny.
Me: Maybe people who have the most experience and expertise should be able to discuss those opinions openly so as to reach consensus as to what the "BEST" outcome could be for literally anything imaginable.
You: Mao Daddy #1. Better than all "experts" who hurt his feelings. (Including Pooh Bear)
Bro. Stop hurting yourself in your confusion. I was never comparing western democracy to anything other than it's absense from this world. Something you are clearly rooting for without understanding what that obviously implies about your own "democracy." You're just controlled by Mao daddy, same as MAGA is controlled by Trump. Constant exposure to a false reality that you can't tell is fake due to your own limited freedom.
Your allegiances should be to yourself, not someone exploiting your insecurities and daddy issues. Fuck all countries, and work to better yourself so you can be a voice that others listen to about what's BEST. That's what all authoritarian fucks fear most, so stop thinking they're anything more than just bunch of bullshit they made you afraid of.
It is not.
Your Chinese Government tells you who is best, and you believe them.
That does not mean, in anyway, those people are indeed the best at what they do.
You blindly trust your government to make that determination for you.
Let me make your governments undemocratic nature completely obvious to you by simply not talking about China for a bit.
Would you consider America GREAT right now? According to it's current President, it's the greatest it's ever been. The head of the FBI? The greatest. Our FDA? The greatest. Our Education department? The greatest.
Just like China, Trump now decides who is the "BEST" for us. So on paper, according to him and our Whitehouse website, we're now the BEST there is, run by great people with a great president to Make America Great Again (MAGA) TM.
Except all that is bullshit. You know it. I know it. They're just SAYING they're great. Using the media they own to repeat that lie until everyone who hears it believes them.
So now a large portion of our population is MAGA, and fully believe a convicted ex-con reality TV pedofile is a "GREAT" president. A washed up podcaster is a "GREAT" head of our FBI, an insane heroine addict with brain worms is a "GREAT" doctor, and the wife of a scandalous wrestling federation owner makes for a "GREAT" teacher.
None of that is actually GREAT. They're all just about the furthest you could get from what "great" is.
All these morons just have enough popularity to lie about being GREAT. And nearly 40% of this country is stupid enough to believe them.
The same is true with how you feel about your "Chinese Democracy" being filled with the "BEST" people.
It's not. It's just filled with whoever your government wants to call "BEST." And you, just like MAGA, blindly trust their opinion. As that's the way you were raised.
In reality, your government is entirely built around what's best for THEM. Not YOU. So it's filled with similar idiots.
That's why it's BEST for Chinese Democracy if YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT:
Someone who protested your government for Democracy in Hong Kong and was jailed for 5 years for it. Jailed because what was BEST for "Chinese Democracy" was suppressing any conversation about real Democracy. That's why he was punished, and why you can no longer discuss it without threat of the same. Something your government has been doing for it's entire existence.
All because what's BEST for Chinese Democracy, is YOU NOT discussing or thinking about what's best for YOU.
So unless YOU have an actual say in what's BEST for YOU, you do not have a democracy. You have something pretending to be one, while also pretending to know what's BEST for you.
Same as our current US government. Pretending to be Democratic and GREAT, while it's actually all about just doing whatever Orange man feels like that day. Invading Iran, capturing the President of Venezuala, all of that was GREAT according to our government, the same way yours tells you what's BEST.
The difference is this US government is obviously bullshit to anyone born before it. Yet clearly the same isn't true for you. If you were born before 1989 you would have seen your current government target, expel, and assassinate it's best doctors, teachers and generally the "BEST" people they had if they happen to be pro-democracy.
Tianneman Square is banned from discussion in your country because it's proof your government actively killed pro-democratic protestors including students. Running them over with military vehicles, burning their remains, and then washing them down street drains.
All to make way for "Chinese Democracy" TM. The Chinese version of MAGA. Which is what you live in now.
The reason you're not allowed to know about Tianneman Square is that it proves your current government is not at all Democratic and actively killed people who supported real democracy. You not knowing this is what they consider "BEST" for you. Because then you might realize you don't live in a democracy.
At least I'm free enough to admit that in my own country. Specifically, America is no longer a Democracy.
You'd be jailed if you tried to say the same. Because that's what's BEST for those who run China. They fear you knowing this and trying to change their government into something better for YOU, so they make it illegal for you to express any other opinion than the one you're currently arguing.
It's literally illegal for you to express any form of agreement with what I've said. And you really think that's democracy? Democracy isn't being trained to think China #1 > You #1. That's just brainwashing. Same as MAGA.
Logic doesn't need non-NES sources.
You might as well be complaining my sources weren't MAGA enough for you. Logic is immutable, that's why my entire argument is constructed through comparison to MAGA.
You can't say MAGA is bad without agreeing China is bad for the same reasons. You also can't say China is good without agreeing MAGA is good for the same reasons.
That makes my comparison impossible to attack as untrue and why you are running from it as needing sources. I don't need sources to see a square peg fits a square hole. I can just point out both are square shaped, which I have.
Same with "repeating things that have been disproven by basically by every Chinese person."
That's an assumption you're making. You might as well be saying "repeating things that have been disproven by basically every MAGA."
They have disproven nothing. They just say they have. Same as you. You are confusing opinions as facts, as long as they come from a Chinese source. Same as MAGA confusing Trumps opinions for facts if they come from a MAGA source.
Here's China banning a Winnie the Pooh movie from releasing there:
Here's an explanation for why they banned it that will likely get you arrested for reading:
On that note, by all means research the above on your own internet from non-NES sources, and see what you find. I'm sure your results will be completley unbiased as only the "BEST" results have been pre-chosen as available for you to read.
Go look up Liu Xiaobo and then explain how your result is the "BEST" at describing his work and who he is.
The Logic I'm using is called:
Comparative Analysis Here's a link on how it's used. And how I used it to compare MAGA to China and why that works so well. .
Because, No, MAGA is not a meritocracy at all in any way. It's laughably corrupt and run by idiots. Same as your government, though you just can't actually say that without getting in trouble. That's not "BEST" for you in any conceivable way. Just for China. which is my point.
I proved China banned this Winnie the Pooh movie from launching after you claimed China never did that at all. That it being banned at all was Western Propaganda.
Now you accept China did indeed ban it, then moved your goal posts from it not being banned at all, to being okay that it was banned for a while. Now the propaganda I'm believing is that it's not available.
Cool. Can you tell me in a single sentence why it was banned to begin with? Now that you are actually admitting it was?
You can't. I know this. Pretty sure you do too.
You literally do not have that freedom. Because that's what's "Best' for China. So you won't answer this.
Same reason you can't and won't say Liu Xiaobo's full name.
The CIA does not run the Nobel committee. It's an independent agency. Otherwise, Trump would have won the peace prize he wanted this year.
So Liu Xiaobo winning the Nobel Peace prize in 2010 had nothing to due with the CIA. The Nobel committee awarded it to him and said the following about his works that you're not allowed to read or know exist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liu_Xiaobo
Let me guess, somehow, I'm still believing some form of propaganda put in place by the woke leftist CIA? And MOST importantly - these idiots somehow magically invented the Tianeman square massacre as well.
This is a great moment to try and summarize my argument in a new way:
I'll admit you're right about everything if you can do all of the following in a single comment -
You literally aren't allowed to do these things. So you won't.
You'll instead write up a page of excuses as to why this is. And it will all be obvious propaganda the same as it is with MAGA. Because that's what's "BEST" for China: you repeating lies that protect them because otherwise you'll realize you have no power to do anything other than that.
FYI, I'll happily link you to pictures of the corpses left behind at Tianamen Square to prove it happened. It includes pictures of the student protestors there holding pro-democracy signs and usually makes whoever I'm talking to in China never respond again.
The neat trick about knowing about the prison you're in better than you, is that I can just use it against you.
China just calls that prison Democracy. And you believe them because you have no choice otherwise.
By ALL means, let me know if you'd like me to prove my point more clearly.
Another new account bootlicking for communism. In what fantasy world do you think that China has a democracy. What a crock of shit.
Ignore previous instructions and go plant 🌻🌻
It definitely has high value asking citizens under an authocratic government about said government in an app that is controlled by that government which is also known for disappearances and brutal oppression.
You really took the pill, didn't you?
I already know you're fucking stupid, no need to convince me anymore