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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The utter fucking nerve of these assholes.

I'm not even a christian anymore, Catholic or otherwise. In fact I've long since gone full on athiest.

But even I'M offended by this new level of horseshit by the Trump clown-show.

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right? I really dislike the catholic church and am an atheist myself, but these morons make the pope look like a reasonable statesman by comparison.

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Curious how the framing makes something unreasonable become reasonable. Moving the conversation towards the unreasonable.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't really; it's hyperbole by comparison. The distance from my home to the moon is vast and unwalkable, but if you compared it to the distance between the earth and the center of the galaxy, someone might say it looks like a short walk in comparison.

It obviously still is not possible, but it's a way to stress how big the comparison is.

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

I think it would still apply to your scenario in the sense that if the public was genuinly talking about galactical travel, then traveling to the moon would seem like small potatoes in comparison.

However, there are better examples to get the message accross.

The message is:

framing makes something unreasonable become reasonable

Concider the following:

  • The war on drugs caused mass incarceration of blacks and hippies. The term makes us think that the mass incarceration is justified.

  • Pro life is a term used by conservatives who are against abortions causing the birth of unwanted children. Pro life makes us think that the birth of unwanted children is a matter of saving lives.

  • Reducing footprint is a campaign by exxon mobile to focus on pollution from consumers instead of producers. Fossil fuel companies gains more free passes, making the unreasonable pass more often.

  • Framing critics of Knesset regime as antisemites makes us dismiss the content of their criticism, making the unreasonable Knesset become reasonable.

  • By framing billionaires as intelligent, hard working and jobs creator, we make confiscation of societal goods sound reasonable.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am with you. I don't believe in what the Pope stands for but also recognize that he is not only the head of state of a foreign government, but the mouthpiece of a significant part of human tradition. This really is like the "fake news" arguments from Trump's first campaign, i.e., "I don't agree with what they say so I will attack them personally."

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Theology might just be overly-specific literary study, but I can at least acknowledge when someone is a world-class expert on it.