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UK moves to ban smoking for everyone born after 2008 (www.dw.com)

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Technically, the new law will raise the legal age requirement in the UK for buying cigarettes, cigars or tobacco, which is currently 18, by one year in every subsequent year, starting on January 1, 2027
This will effectively mean that people born on or after January 1, 2009 will never be eligible to buy them
Retailers will face financial penalties for selling the products to those not entitled to them
The government will also be empowered to impose a new registration system for smoking and vaping products entering the country, seeking to improve oversight
The bill will expand the UK's indoor smoking ban to a series of outdoor public spaces, for instance in children's playgrounds, outside schools and hospitals
Most indoor spaces that are designated smoke-free will become vape-free as well
Smoking in designated areas outside pubs and bars and other hospitality settings will remain permissible
Smoking and vaping will remain legal in people's homes
Vaping will become illegal in cars if someone under the age of 18 is inside, to match existing rules on smoking
Advertising for smoking and vaping products will be banned
People aged 18 or older will remain eligible to purchase vaping products, but some items targeted at younger consumers like disposable vapes have already been outlawed as part of the program

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1588892/

“The cumulative impact of excess medical care required by smokers at all ages while alive outweighs shorter life expectancy, and smokers incur higher expenditures for medical care over their lifetimes than never-smokers. This accords with the findings by Manning et al. (1989) of positive lifetime medical care costs per pack of cigarettes, but disagrees with the results found by Leu and Schaub (1983, 1985) for Swiss males. The contradictory conclusions of the analyses are undoubtedly due to a large difference in the amount of medical care used by smokers relative to neversmokers in the United States and Swiss data”

The only studies I can find that confirm shortened longevity incurs lower costs occur outside of America, which shifts things greatly due to cultural differences in receiving medical care and Americas totally fucked healthcare billing

Also I’ll point out that I said I don’t agree with the original poster, that I don’t care if you smoke, and now I will say that you’re a fucking moron with poor reading comprehension. Sorry that I won’t confirm your bias so you don’t feel worse about smoking, idiot. But again, smoke all you want, I don’t care, but don’t act like it doesn’t increase the cost burden on public health (as do your other examples but I also don’t care if you eat cheeseburgers every day and drink yourself to death)

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I came across one study a while ago (can't be bothered to dig it up, because it was trash) that found that smokers were cheaper than non-smokers, but contrary to your study, which rightfully compares smokers to never-smokers, the study I found a while ago put people who stopped smoking right before their death into the non-smokers category.

I don't think I have to explain why this is beyond-stupid grouping, but that study was widely shared 10 or so years ago. Might be the study that @NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml referenced.