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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 53 points 4 days ago (3 children)

People, if you want to leave the USA there are better options than China


There's not a single mention of politics in the whole article 😐

His enthusiasm is a bit obnoxious if you ask me:

Shenzhen is like if Silicon Valley and New York City had a baby in China. It is a bustling tech capital with surprises on every corner.

As far as the facts go, it's unclear if he gets a US salary or a chinese:

full-time job as a marketing manager (...) closer to $3,500 a month, plus roughly $1,200 a month from my side gigs.

Groceries would probably be more expensive in Finland, but otherwise these numbers are very comparable, incl. urban rent.

And you get real democracy and freedom.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Finland is tricky to get into though, if you don't already have family or a similar connection. Haven't looked at China, any idea what would be involved with emigrating there? I'm curious how much they're paving the way for new talent to come in.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Finland is tricky to get into though, if you don’t already have family or a similar connection.

That statement just isn't true. Anybody can get into Finland. After 3 months it gets trickier; if you're not an EU citizen it's usually about getting work.

But I've been saying for years the EU should be granting political asylum to people from USA; at first half-jokingly, now maybe 10% jokingly.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Right, the conversation was about emigrating to other countries. My understanding is that the job market in Finland is particularly tight, especially if you're not already there.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 1 points 3 days ago

My understanding is that the job market in Finland is particularly tight

What exactly do you mean?

especially if you’re not already there.

Are you saying in other countries it's easy to get jobs even though you're not there?