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[–] Janx@piefed.social 88 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Stay classy, Texas. I believe in redemption. But I also believe a convicted sex offender can't continue coaching kids and needs to find another line of work...

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 73 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean,

"Convicted sex offender" can mean anyone from a serial rapist to someone who peed outside. But the byline says:

The former Houston Astros prospect holds previous charges of online solicitation of a minor and domestic violence.

So he shouldn't be in a school.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Are there really a lot of people who peed outside in the ranks of sex offenders? Kinda find that hard to believe.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 27 points 3 days ago

Probably happens a lot more to black people, at least in the U.S.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

It really depends on how granular the laws get in certain areas.

But for example indecent exposure may not be a mandatory register on the sex offenders registry, but within 200m of a school or playground is mandatory. (even if it was 2am on a sunday in the middle of the school holidays during the dead of winter.) Like the whole getting booked for drunk driving for being drunk and going to your car to get a jacket.

There are people who are on the register who shouldnt be and people who absolutely should be who arent.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Define "a lot"

It can also mean someone breastfeedig in public

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It just comes across as arguing, "but sex crimes are often overstated and not that serious, mostly minor things!" No pun intended.

But when you look through the registries, the crimes are usually clearly spelled out and much worse than what you're suggesting.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was just double checking. Most convictions that carry a sex offender label are actually serious, but most is not all.

DUI can also mean being completely sober and not driving a vheicle.

And what am I "suggesting"??

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social -2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I am always fascinated by people who put a lot of energy into pretending that sex crimes aren't a big deal and that a lot of registered sex offenders really didn't do anything.

It is objectively untrue, and any amount of research will demonstrate that.

So what is the deal? Why are doing it?

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are still thousands of people who are sex offenders for merely urinating in public. Try telling them their lives are just statistical noise.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"A final issue worth noting with these realities may well encompass sex offenders who are not violent predators, pedophiles, or rapists, yet still are required to register. This includes individuals who “moon” people, people arrested for urinating in public, and gay and bisexual men convicted of cruising parking lots for sexual partners in public places (Jones 1999)." https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7649057/#CR33

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And you believe that this supports your statement that there are

"l thousands of people who are sex offenders for merely urinating in public"

?

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes. If there's 850,000 on the sex offender registry, a 1% "false positive" rate is almost certainly undercounting it, especially with the way our criminal justice system works. Do the vast majority 95%+ belong there, yes I believe that. But even a 1% rate leads to thousands of people being on the list unnecessarily.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And your "1% of people on the sex offender register are not actually guilty" number comes from...?

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

First of all, dont quote me and rewrite my words. I never said "not actually guilty." If you want to argue with yourself you dont need to reply to me to do that.

http://usclaims.com/educational-resources/how-many-people-are-wrongfully-convicted/?amp

And where does your 99%+ conviction accuracy rate come from?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Strange, I thought we were talking about registered sex offenders. Did you forget or just realize that you pulled that number directly from your ass?

If you want to make rules for this discussion, how about we start with you agreeing to stop making shit up?

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, registered sex offenders are a subset of the people convicted of crimes. What's strange about that?

And what did I make up? I gave you sources for everything I claimed to you. Do you have anything to back up your claims here?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You claim there are THOUSANDS of not-really-sex offenders that are registered sex offenders. Why you are so interested in propagating that myth, I can only guess, but you have not actually provided a single source that actually says that.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And you claim there aren't, but i showed you some sources to back up my logic, and you haven't shown me anything so what am I supposed to take away from your replies?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ok. How about this. Since its really hard to prove a negative, how about we lower the bar for you to make this REALLY easy. Post 5 cases of a person whose ONLY offense was public urination that resulted in them being put on the sex offender registry. That is it. I don't need you to prove that there are THOUSANDS. Just give me FIVE. that should be easy since there ARE thousands of registered sex offenders out there and if this happens THOUSANDS of times then it should be real easy to tease out a couple real world examples. Go for it.

That is it. Show me just FIVE cases out of the literally millions of people that have been put on the sex offender registry and I will concede that it could indeed be THOUSANDS.

If you cannot find even FIVE people this has actually happened to, then you have to concede that it is a made up bullshit argument.

How about that?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I did not fucking say any of that. I said the opposite.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

I hope it's just contrarianism stretched to its breaking point.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, whoever couldn't afford a private attorney. I was charged with urinating in public once, public defender wanted me to plea guilty, i would have ended up on sex offender registry.

private attorney came in got it reduced to blocking the sidewalk. It's really that fucked in this country, nobody goes for committing crimes, that's just a coincidence. The real crime is being too poor to afford an attorney who will get you out of that.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Its a thing that has happened like once or twice but every sex offender pretends it was them that it happened to and lots of people like to perpetuate the myth.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Just like the teens out on the list for taking naked selfies. It might not happen a lot but the fact that it does at all is stupid.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago

Pretty much what it feels like. I was expecting at least one or two anecdotes. It's like the "welfare queen" argument. Are there individuals abusing those systems? Probably. Duh. But it's not so severe that it should prevent us from helping literally all the other people. Tangent, but same stupid argument structure.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

public urination isnt a sex offense, its likely misdeameanor for public indency. more than likely its FLASHING young girls with your penis, or whatever. there are some sites that allow you to see sex offendors in your area, and some of them to give you what they were caught with, alot of them tends toward showing your junk.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago

It depends on where you live. I was just pointing out the edge case and people seem to want to put words in my mouth.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

texas always have to one up florida, eventhough florida has the sunshine laws.