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Blame tourist for all your countries problems

Refuse tourist into many Izakayas for decades

Fail to capture the tourist market for decades

Prices rise and force out much of the native population

Try to pivot to the same tourist you told to GTFO and never marketed to

??????

FORECLOSURE!

Literal pottery.

Not a smart marketing decision to gatekeep Izakayas from people with money. Many tourist out earn even the most skilled of salarymen by a wide margin. Not marketing to this group has been a massive mistake, foolish.

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel like people here read about the few incidents about the xenophobes in Japan and assume we're treating all the visitors like trash. Why do you think people keep coming here? They have a good time.

Even in the article, it doesn't say we kick out foreigners from our bars. The foreigners just don't seem interested in izakaya, which makes sense because so many of them only seem to know about ramen and sushi.

Fuck xenophobes but the comments here are weird.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Are izakaya the bars with all the really good fried stuff and cheap beer? I was in Japan for business and we spent an evening at one such bar and it was an amazing experience.

And yeah I've never gotten to go for pleasure, but spending a week in a smaller part of the country really made me want to go back and get to see more of it.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah! They have more than just fried stuff too! If you ever make it to Okinawa in the future, I'd love to take you around. Invitation is open to anyone reading this too.

But you liked the smaller part of the country eh? Okinawa is always busy with tourists... If you don't mind the long train ride, I went to this place called Tono in Iwate Prefecture. It was such a cute little town.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

When I say smaller, I should clarify it was a small industrial city near Nagoya, it's bigger than I thought, but it's still somewhere few people outside japan would know about. I also got to see a slightly more urban area as well, but in both locations I was spending all day in a factory and crashing pretty hard from 12 hour jet lag at night lol.

It left me wanting to see and try more, including the touristy stuff, but especially the national parks. The beauty I saw on the shinkansen was amazing. But in general I just enjoy going new places, meeting new people, and seeing and experiencing different cultures. Seeing parts of Japan few people outside the country see was cool even if I wished I got to see some of the more classically impressive stuff too.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, as a foreigner who has been to Japan many times, I find izakaya to be extremely intimidating. I only go to them if I have someone local to go with.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

I can see how it can be a bit intimidating. Even I don't go into the hyper local ones because they all have their unique vibes. But I think that's the same with any small bars elsewhere in the world. I dunno if I'd have the balls to just roll into a tiny pub in rural Ireland without knowing anyone there.

But if you're in a big city and it looks like a busy place, I'm sure most places will be happy to serve you. I think it would help if you could communicate with them a bit in Japanese but English will do, too. But don't go in assuming or expecting them to understand and serve you in English.

Just have a few things you wanna eat ready in your head, and ask "[food/drink] onegaishimasu" and you're good to go! After a few beers I'm sure you'll stop worrying too much.

[–] qat@feddit.nl 3 points 22 hours ago

Why?! On my last Japan trip I visited many izakayas. Great food, friendly people, nice vibes. Yes you have to use Google Translate and still you have no idea what you're ordering (or sometimes there isn't really a menu), but who cares, everything is delicious anyway.