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[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Given that there has been very little evidence for “satanic” child sexual abuse cults despite rumors going back at least half a century, it wouldn’t surprise me if there is some relation. The devil’s in the details, and these reports ring absolutely true personally.

Please don’t take this as anything against Judaism as a whole, some of my best friends, family, nicest people yada yada. It’s like any powerful religion.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

I know that for contemporary Republican politicians, every accusation against their perceived enemies is an admission of something they're doing.

I didn't know that went all the way back to the Satanic Panic.

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nothing satanic, it's just abuse with some dressed up frills to get the victim to accept their abuse. And Israel is choke full of abusers.

Even a survey found that the majority didn't think forcing another person into sex is considered rape.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/view-from-jerusalem-with-harriet-sherwood/2011/jan/21/israel-palestinian-territories

https://www.haaretz.com/2011-01-18/ty-article/study-61-of-men-dont-see-forced-sex-with-acquaintance-as-rape/0000017f-df30-db22-a17f-ffb162e20000

College Study: 41 Percent of Women Students Don't See Forced Sex With Acquaintance as Rape. 61 percent of the male students polled in a small college survey did not equate forced sex with an acquaintance as rape.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That’s my point. Maybe there were “satanic” ritualistic abuse cults, maybe not. But it seems increasingly likely there have been Zionist ritualistic abuse cults for a long time. Their pentagram a… hexagram?

I think these stats are a reflection of just how toxic Israeli culture has become in some areas. It’s a slippery slope from → these types of people are not human to → inhumanity applied to other groups, as we all know. Eventually it is applied on oneself when it becomes so ingrained in the culture

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

I still don't know if I can make a generalization that it's because Israelis are predominantly of a faith and therefore are cultish, and by extension likely to be abusers within the faith. In the end, a majority of Israelis are not religious and don't subscribe to religious doctrine.

So I agree with your second paragraph:

I think these stats are a reflection of just how toxic Israeli culture has become in some areas. It’s a slippery slope from → these types of people are not human to → inhumanity applied to other groups, as we all know. Eventually it is applied on oneself when it becomes so ingrained in the culture.

And because of how sadistic and toxic the culture is, it's even more apparent in the spinoff cults.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think it's more the case that relatively inward-looking communities (for example, religious cults or factions) enable abuse by being suspicious of outside authority and opposing accountability for their leaders. Instead, they close ranks and try to hide their problems. That may mean solving them themselves, or more often, protecting the perpetrators and laying on the denial.

It's a depressing fact that child abuse happens everywhere. There's a certain, probably irreducible, percentage of any population who are sick, evil scum who prey on the vulnerable. The only question is whether the problem is confronted or hidden. In that way, Israeli culture is no different than that anywhere else.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And for groups like this it makes perfect sense that many would see reporting it and publicizing it as having a risk of hurting the group as a whole, victim included. You try internal means of dealing with the issue if you can, or you try warning potential victims, or you just try to move on.

It's one of the reasons it's so bad to associate groups with unrelated crimes and heinous acts.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The massive problem with this ritualised csa is that it is deliberately conscripting people who aren’t that way inclined to participate to benefit the depravities of a few and presumably provide blackmail powers. This is vastly different from covering up for rogue individuals in power dynamic, it is deliberately much more damaging to everyone involved, even normalised, and it provides extremely strong obedience. There is a presumption of no possible outside authority in this scenario by those involved, by design. I would hope that this is unusual at this level of seniority within a culture, but I have my doubts.