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He's not part of ms13 by any credible means.
Nope, what happened is what i said happened. I've said my part already, you're welcome to assume whatever you want, doesn't make it any more true
2 separate judges/courts disagree with you, and somehow I think they probably had a bit more to work with than you do.
Right his finger tats. I forgot 🤣
You think the 2 separate courts/judges decided he was MS13 in 2019 based just on those finger tattoos?
No, because they didn't
They absolutely did:
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/16/kilmar-abrego-garcia-ms-13-gang-member-history-violence
Got anything from a reputable source? The DHS is no longer reputable thanks to trump. It's a fully propaganda page now.
The dhs article is referencing the previous court cases. Here is one where it was determined he is MS13:
https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline
This was appealed and a separate judge came to the same conclusion.
Even pro-Garcia articles make many references to those court cases.
That's your proof he is ms13? A blurb saying "someone" said he is?
The 2 judges saw confidential information proving his MS13 affiliation. This combined with the other evidence - hanging out with self confessed gang members, gang tattoos, wearing the same gang affiliated clothing as the self confessed gang members, etc - were enough to convince 2 separate judges he is a gang member.
Why do you think you know better than them? You didn’t even know these documents and rulings existed lol
Also it’s not my proof - it’s the judges and immigration and DHS’ rulings.
Guilty by association, gotta love it!
I did, they are unconvincing, especially considering he had a stay, to not get deported. Yes I know there were 2 countries listed in the stay. It's bullshit. If he IS a gang member, he still needs to be tried, and found guilty of a crime
lol seeking asylum yet hadn’t even tried to begin citizenship pathways in the 14 years he’d been in the country illegally.
Funnily enough the stay of deportation was because of MS13 rival gangs targeting him lol. Bit of a weird one if he’s not MS13.
Right, because gangs never bother or harass non gang members.
Just another coincidence for Garcia I guess. A coincidence that he was picked up hanging out with self admitted gang members. A coincidence he was wearing known gang clothes while with them. A coincidence he has tattoos that can easily be read as MS13. A coincidence that he says he can’t go back to El Salvador, MS13s home territory, because of MS13s rival gang wanting to kill him.
This guy is just a walking talking coincidence, all with the same gang. What are the odds?!
It could very well be, yes. Guilty by association is not how to do things
And it’s not how they did things.
Except for its how they did things.
Court records show it's not.
Right, these court records of "someone" saying he is? Or the court records that had a stay of deportation?
The court records where 2 separate judges saw all the evidence, including confidential information which prove his gang affiliation. Not just one judge - 2 separate ones.
The invocation of the illegal alien act overrides the stay of deportation, hence why he was deported.
If a confidential informant, or say an undercover agent inside MS13, says that he is a MS13 member, would you believe it? Would you want that confidential informant or undercover agent to have to blow their cover, their job, and risk their life in order to get a single low level gang member deported?
Except the us isn't at war, so he shouldn't have been deported. Trump's government had no right to deport him based on the stay of deportation, sooooo he shouldn't have been deported for being a "gang" member because the stay of deportation wouldn't have happened if he was in ms13.
Except they ruled that they are at war with MS13, so he could lawfully be deported along with all the others.
Already explained - the illegal alien act.
Incorrect. The stay really only happened because he is MS13 - it was given precisely because they concluded that MS13's rival gang would seek him out and harm him if he was deported.
Whoa! Congress declared a state of war?
Which, again, not at war.
Funny that, i thought ms13 were super dangerous, why would they not only stop him from being deported, but also let him be free,
If that’s what you to from that then you’re either room temperature iq or arguing in bad faith.
Illegal immigrants who have already ordered to be deported don’t need to commit another crime to be deported lol. What on earth lol. You think illegal immigrants can’t be exported unless they go and break another crime?!
When there is a stay on deportation, and the dude was seeking asylum. But I guess that doesn't matter