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Hows about you don’t even worry about pirating it and just move to opensource?
I’m far from a spreadsheet super user, but Excel really is in a class by itself. The rest of the office suite, however, is easily replaced by open source.
As someone who uses Excel on a daily basis: Excel is a bloated, unstable, bug-ridden pile of crap
Indeed a class of its own, at least since the fall of Lotus.
Try LibreOffice calc.
I think Word is harder to replace because formatting issues assuming documents are in word format
Sorry, but no. It's awful. Tried it out when I was doing my taxes. Basic shit is just hidden and convoluted it just not possible.
I find it even more convoluted in Excel. But it is subjective. In any case, I agree it is convoluted. I think (no proof) the old style Excel menus were used as basis for libreoffice.
But, just like with any software, search it once and you learn how. Takes a while but it's great when you get the hang and get everything set up for your use case.
I use Calc, and it does just fine for my use case. But I know people in finance whose work relies on the powerful advanced features excel has and LO just doesn’t yet.
Funny enough, I haven’t touched a word processor or slide deck program in years.
But python is more of a first class citizen in libreCalc.
You can use Numpy, Pandas, matplotlib, etc... In both excel and librecalc since recently and excel has a hacky runtime inside of it that often has to be restarted if leaving it idle for too long.
You can do 10x what you can do in excel + VBS with python packages. Dataframes alone for data analysis is night and day compared to VBS hacks.
Use PDF instead of Word format.
These are Mac users we're talking about here - they're terrified of anything not produced by a corpo.
This is a common stereotype but there is a reasonably sized group of Linux enthusiasts who work on macs.
Macos is a real unix based OS. (As opposed to unix compatible GNU “Gnu is Not Unix”) and they claim the performance (apples own chips), even in a vm is amazing.
I had at least one coworker who did this, i also remember Emily Young (Who some remember as Anthony from Ltt) also had quite a few apple products in her house.
I've seen so many people say this over the years, and I'm still not sure why i should give a flying fuck. Additionally, when I worked on low level cross platform software, macos was the one that was missing posix functionally I had to replace by writing shims in objective c
Supposedly freedom loving open source folk are as susceptible to flashy marketing surrounding Apple's shiny new thing as any other consumer. I remember how infuriated I got when I saw the Asahi project. Years upon years of hardwork only to get an operating system, which already runs on computers 99% of the userbace relies on, to run on Apple's fancy new laptop on the bloc, just because. There so no real benefit to actually do it, be we do it still!
When Asahi started, the M1 chips were so good they might as well have been the only ARM-based-that-can-run-x86/x64-code-CPUs in-town. Last I checked, the M-series were still consistetly near the top of the stack of such chips, and look even better when you account for price.
Your argument works even better versus the Snapdragon X, but that's Microsoft's current fav, so ... ?
They can do what they want, but with no help from Apple even on the documentation front it's sure not how I'd spend my time
As someone who lives and works in Silicon Valley, the amount of coworkers and colleagues in my experience in engineering using non-default MacOS configurations is nonexistent. There are things like Asahi Linux (which is an amazing project, don't get me wrong), but let's not pretend that the people who use open source software on MacOS are not fractions of a percent compared to the general userbase.
In fact, my experience working in IT professionally and assisting friends and family personally has only underscored that view - those who were actually using Linux and FOSS software professionally were not on Apple hardware (and knew what went wrong and what assistance was needed). Those who I had to assist with Apple hardware... were different strains of "technically inept" who managed to break their experiences despite using default settings (kind of impressive I suppose).