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[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Or, cognitive impairment from lead poisoning leads to unsafe gun storage.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

They were measuring lead in infants under 36 months old.

Are you suggesting toddlers are losing their ability to safely store firearms or did you just not read the article?

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, have you ever seen a baby properly store a firearm? Exactly.

E: ban all babies! Ban all babies!

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

TBF I've never seen a baby improperly store a firearm either.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

The last guy didn't live to tell the tale.

Are babies blood-thirsty murders? More at 10.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 1 points 14 hours ago

Hes suggesting infants with elevated blood lead levels probably have parents with elevated levels.

[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

It was a joke. But lead is in the environment. If toddlers are exposed to it, chances are the parents are too.

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think he is saying the parents have lead impaired thinking and thus are not good at storing the weapons?

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That is 100% what he is saying. I was be facetious.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 23 hours ago

After they develop those neck muscles enough to hold their head steady they've got to start working on aim...

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They make lead free bullets these days, I highly recommend those if you can afford the slightly higher price.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 5 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

What do the lead free bullets do to the bore? Lead is one of the more lubricious metals available.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago

It's fine. Most rounds are jacketed these days anyway, and copper fouling is pretty easy to clean away. Lead is just cheap and easy mass for the same space.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 23 hours ago
[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

I dunno about you but I've never thought about sticking bullets up my butt. Until now.

[–] Klear@piefed.world 3 points 22 hours ago

I'm tired and missed the word "lead", so I thought you were recommending free bullets and your comment about higher price made me wonder if Americans are getting paid to get bullets otherwise.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

The bullets are lead-free, but usually the primers still contain lead which is a big, maybe the biggest, part of lead exposure with firearms, and it can be pretty hard to find ammo with lead-free primers, it also can get pricey, and by a lot of accounts they're less reliable than lead-based primers, so that's something to be taken into account.

Lead exposure from the ammo itself is usually pretty minimal, a lot of bullets are jacketed in copper so under normal handling you're not really going to come in contact with much if any lead. There will probably be some fouling in the barrel, but that's mostly contained in the barrel and unless you're cleaning your gun on the same towel you use to wash your face thats pretty easily contained with some basic precautions like wearing gloves and such (not that all, honestly probably not most gun owners take those precautions seriously)

But when the primer detonates it's putting out a lot of aerosolized lead compounds that kind of get all over the place because it's basically getting sprayed around you- on your hands, on your clothes, the outside of your gun, your range bag, you're inhaling it, etc.

So keeping your gun and shooting gear in a safe or something helps to keep that contained so it's not getting transferred from your gun and range bag to wherever you set it down.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, my first thought was also that they had the causal relationship backwards.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

in children

No there are multiple parties at play. The infants being exposed to lead are not the ones failing to store the guns correctly.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They researchers hypothesize that the children's blood lead content is related to lead particles carried into the home on a recently fired gun and the parent's clothing. That sounds weak as hell to me. It's much more likely that the children and parents are both exposed when the gun is fired. More likely, in my opinion, the whole family was exposed by going to Nascar races, that until recently still used leaded gasoline, or some other environmental exposure. I would imagine that long term lead exposure could readily be associated with unsafe gun storage.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 23 hours ago

There's our friends from Louisiana who remodeled old houses, including stripping old paint with a belt sander - their kids tested real high, for blood lead levels.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They were measuring the lead on the household floors and infant babies' blood. I'm guessing the mothers/infants were not at the range.

The research team analyzed data from the longitudinal HOME Study, which was developed to assess the effects of environmental toxicant exposures on various health outcomes. The study, based in Cincinnati, Ohio, enrolled over 400 pregnant women from 2003 to 2006 and is following them and their babies over time.

In the HOME Study, blood lead levels were measured at ages 12, 24 and 36 months and floor dust lead levels from first measurement, at 12 months and at 24 months. Caregivers reported firearm ownership, number of firearms and storage practices during pregnancy.

The team’s analysis found that in homes where firearms were not stored or locked, there was 29% to 84% higher dust lead from first measurement through when the child was 24 months of age, and children had approximately 20% higher blood lead levels at ages 12 to 36 months.

Same research team already found that gun ownership correlates to higher household levels in 44 states.

https://www.brown.edu/news/2024-03-01/firearms-lead