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The way to vote with your wallet on this is to not go to the restaurant, not to still go and then be an asshole to the underpaid staff. Not leaving a tip doesn't hurt the exploitative restaurateur or the system you "disagree with" but are still willfully participating in as far as it suits you. Also, fuck the Post.
I'm fine with this idea. But just so I understand, doesn't not going to the restaurant also hurt the staff? Is the idea to hurt the owner and the staff at the same time?
I ask because during COVID restaurant staff were definitely calling for people to go to restaurants more to "keep them alive." At least they were in my area.
Not going to the restaurant doesn't hurt the staff any more than going and not tipping.
So people should go and just not tip since it won't affect the employees anyway?
They've wasted time serving you for $2.13/hr when they could have been serving someone who was going to tip them instead of being a prick about it.
Sounds like they should demand compensation from their boss then, if they're working without compensation.
Victim blaming is always the easy solution, isn't it.
Maybe if they don't want to work there anymore they could. But until they're all part of the SEIU or similar the owner/manager has all the power in their relationship.
Yeah, the system is broken, but you fucking over the person at the bottom doesn't make you some sort of hero. You're no better than the assholes leaving Chick Tracts instead of cash.
So, what is the solution then?
It may be just me, but this seems like turning serfs on serfs while everyone goes to the powers that be rather than actually addressing the issue. I mean, I'm fine with just eating out less and tipping when I do, but I don't see how not tipping is morally wrong when they entered system was about morally exploiting the costumer.
Also, the process only exists because restauranteurs had difficulty paying their employees during the great depression and encouraged them to accept payment To Insure Promptness (TIP). Can we just go back to a system when I only tip when my food is delivered quickly and the service is above average rather than to prevent people from spitting in my food because that is somehow now socially acceptable?
Am I missing something though? Because this whole thing seems like a less horrific version for rape being an implied additional punishment of jail in the US.
I'm not going to pretend to know the right answer to the fixing the system, but I'm pretty sure further exploiting the workers trying to pay rent and put food on their own tables while contributing to the profits of the ones doing the exploiting isn't it.
I'm not sure where you're getting anything about spitting in your food, typically in a sit down restaurant the bill and tip are reconciled at the end of the meal so there's no opportunity for that even if they wanted to.
The great depression and ensuring promptness are all out of order and incorrect. The term itself is from the 17th century, and in America, it gained popularity because of racism (because of course it did) after the civil war.
https://www.tiphaus.com/blog/The-history-of-tipping/
https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/09/what-is-the-origin-of-the-word-tip-as-in-leaving-a-tip/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tip-sheet/
And are you implying that being expected to tip is the same as being raped? That seems like a pretty unhinged take on the situation, even with the "less horrific" disclaimer. But I guess if that's the direction we're headed the waitstaff deserve to get shafted and that girl shouldn't have been wearing a skirt, or walking alone at night, or having a drink, or whatever justification you want to offer, right?
"I'm not sure where you're getting anything about spitting in your food, typically in a sit down restaurant the bill and tip are reconciled at the end of the meal so there's no opportunity for that even if they wanted to."
Tips are collected prior to pick up for many sit down restaurants if you plan order take out (which is independently more BS given you weren't even waited on). Delivery services and restaurants have suggested they would tamper with food if no tipe is provided. Perhaps that was more localized to California or the Bay Area though.
"And are you implying that being expected to tip is the same as being raped?"
Umm... No.
My point is that it is an exploitative process that has been normalized by US society. If you think rape is horrific then that's good. You should. You should also be absolutely horrified that it has been treated as a running joke for prison sentences for generations in the US at this point. My general annoyance is that so many exploitative aspects of US society have been just... Accepted. Tipping is probably the most benign.
Thanks for the links on the history of tipping, I'll have to take a look.
Although, I don't see how this takes away from the general issue of owner exploits employee, employee exploits costumer, if costumer does not give in to the (voluntary) exploitative system the exploited worker turns on exploited consumer instead of employer.
It just seems your suggestion is to keep being exploited until the system fixes itself because otherwise the worker can't afford their cost of living. Luckily for me I can't afford to go out anymore so I'll just pay the excessive cost of groceries and GET ASKED FOR TIPS IN THE GOD DAMN GROCERY STORE NOW!!!
Anyway, this is probably not a debate worth having, but thanks again for the links.
This rewards the owner and punishes the worker.
You can't expect people who aren't used to tipping and are used to correct prices in the menu to start paying 20%-50% extra out of nowhere. The disturbing situation of the US is not their fault.
To be fair, a lot of this probably isn't even intentional. Tipping just isn't nearly as much of a thing in Europe and people just forget. And also these people being tourists are usually not people with access to a kitchen to cook their own shit in, so unless you wanna cook instant noodles in your hotel room kettle you're kind of bound to places that serve you food.
You can blame the europeans here for not knowing or even intentionally not conforming, but tipping being a heavily debated difference between US and EU catering culture is really old news and all these pub owners also could've just factored the tip into the price they already inflated for this event anyway. You can't blame people for thinking their 15 dollar beer includes the service.
So it still just circles back around to stingy employers if you ask me.
A question here: If "voting with your wallet" does not influence the restaurant... How can we do this??
In a system that is "used to this situation" why should something change, if everybody behaves the same. That's the first time America sees an outside perspective and the solution you propose is still: "let's keep it this way, otherwise we 'hurt' people". The people don't see that they are exploited... Maybe that's the "straw" they need?