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[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I almost thought you were American given your "rail doesn't work, look how big our country is" BS argument. I guess it works for Australia too, though. Funnily enough your own map shows how Australia is actually perfectly siuted for extensive rail infrastructure connecting most of the metropolitan regions with each other.

Adelade-Melbourne-Sydney-Brisbane covers most of Australia's population and is a model case for an HSR corridor, certainly also has the population to support one as well. Add to that a Dutch style multimodal urban model and Australia could be on par with the rest of the developed world infrastructure wise. Perth and Darwin are self contained urban islands anyway, too far for attractive rail but also road connection

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funnily enough your own map shows how Australia is actually perfectly siuted for extensive rail

Yes, it has been attempted many many many times, it's now parodied in our own parks and rec style comedy program:

Is A High-Speed Rail Possible In Australia? | Utopia

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8av3knflbQo

certainly also has the population to support one as well

I don't think you are noticing just how sparsely populated we are and how big those mountains are in between the cities

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That is exclusively a problem of politcal and may be incompetence. It doesn't change the fact that Australia is extremely well suited for HSR covering the majority of its urban population. All with a single line.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That is exclusively a problem of politcal and may be incompetence.

you are free to crique the last 50 years and 10 different government and private enterprise attempts at doing it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_Australia

apparently you know better 👍

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

You are aware that your link confirms my point, aren't you? Countless studies showing that the corridor is feasible and makes sense, yet not a single project in 50 years, where the government has shown the political will to get serious about it, never mind showing long term commitment.

If you want to bring up actual arguments why what is possible in Japan, China and much of Europe is impossible on the Melbourne-Sydney corridor, be my guest.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

i give up mate, if you can’t read i can’t help you

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

No arguments? A pity.

it seems it wasn't me who didn't read your own source:

"Every federal government since this time has investigated the feasibility of constructing high-speed rail with speeds above 200 km/h, but to date nothing has ever gone beyond the detailed planning stage"

Even the US has come further already than that.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You’re confused why it’s not getting past the planning stage?

Maybe watch the video again? You’re literally the guy in it :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8av3knflbQo

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago) (1 children)

Yeah, thanks for confirming my argument. The video is pretty much bringing up the arguments I'd expect. But it really shows how weak they are when they complain about distances being too far when they are actually perfect for HSR and yes, it is enough if individual relations are close enough. That is how many HSR networks work.

But sure, Australia is the only country with mountains and suburbs. And kanguruhs are an unsurmountable issues for rail, but not for highways.

It all boils down to ideology. Weirdly enough it was not impossible to build inner urban highways though, which required much more space. But then, unlike road infrastructure, rail is required to be proftibale and that is why Australia remains underdeveloped and its airports overloaded.

Add to that wavering back and forth with financial support a generally hostile legal environment towards HSR projects and generally hostile laws to building important large national infrastructure, balooning costs on any infrastructure project. I would not be surprised if more money would have to be spent on bureaucracy and judicial things than on actually building that thing. That is not much different from the US where they need to pay multiple times more per km than in other Western countries with comparable corridors.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

Please stop down voting comments you disagree with, it makes you look like a dick

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

I am not downvoting for content but debating style. You started off with ad hominem and than added not a single ( or a few) well defined argument but a video with dozens one liner arguments that cannot be addressed without writing half a book.

But maybe I am indeed in the wrong instance for that and it is indeed a wrong expectation on my side.