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I used Mullvad for a long time, but hearing about one of the two CEOs actively supporting and financing swedish Nazis, I'm looking to put my money elsewhere. That's the second one after Private Internet Access (who supported Gab).

I had AirVPN and Surfshark being recomnended, how do people here feel? What do you use?

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[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

List of vpns not to use

NordVPN

Facebook Onavo

ExpressVPN

Private Internet Access

Everything Kape Technologies

HolaVPN

PureVPN

ZenMate

CyberGhost

Imagine someone unironically using Facebook's VPN service.

[–] beep@piefed.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't want to be mean to you, as it might be just ignorance.

But my dude, why did you decide to use Inaccessible photo instead of using text or at the very least Text +photo?

If I suffer from any condition that affect my vision or my reading /understanding... how am I supposed to read this?

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

sorry, added the list in plaintext

[–] beep@piefed.world 10 points 4 days ago

Thank you a lot🌹.

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You included AirVPN in that list even though they aren't mentioned in either of your screenshots.. maybe a typo? I've never heard of them being associated with Kape so am curious why you lumped them into all that.

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 10 points 4 days ago
[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

Why is airvpn on your list?

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

NordVPN is interesting because it was less about them handing over data to the government, and them just not being transparent about an attack. All the others in that post clearly were in cahoots with big gov.

NordVPN’s defense was technically coherent: because the company doesn’t store activity logs, no user browsing data was exposed. The breach was framed as a vendor problem. The attacker had gotten in through an insecure remote management system that the data center had left open. NordVPN said it hadn’t even known the system existed.

That may all be accurate. But the eighteen months of silence is the actual story.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I was expecting it to be much worse to be honest. Obviously they should have said something right away and hopefully they've learned their lesson. Not sure I'd write them off for this one incident from 7-8 years ago but it's probably still good to have that asterisks on their name.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What's wrong with PIA? I thought they have shown that they do not store any data more than once.

They're Israeli, and the biggest vulnerability of a VPN is the provider.

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago

their parent company hired someone from Project Raven to be a CIO for ExpressVPN