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    [–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

    No offense, but what are you installing it on? One of the things I oversee at my job is imaging. Installing fresh windows on any of our hardware is between 7 and 15 minutes total. Since windows 10 I also haven't seen any need for additional drivers either unless you have something uncommon or want to replace one. Not trying to defend Windows, I just can't understand how everyone always has the worst problems imaginable with it.

    [–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

    The vast majority of computer users with those kinds of issues are

    1. probably using windows home
    2. On a big box store computer with a platter drive
    3. an i3 cpu
    4. and 8gb of ram

    windows 10 couldn't reliably run it's own bundled software (Mail), by itself, with nothing else open, without that one app going "not responding" every few minutes on a computer with those specs.

    Last time i checked, Walmart, best buy, costco, etc were still selling those specs with win11 which is notably bulkier and slower than 10, especially without an ssd, so things have only gotten worse for the average non-power-user.

    That's a perfectly servicible spec for basic operations on a mint install, you could probably even watch netflix or youtube on it with linux, but i wouldn't want to run windows newer than xp on it.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

    Admitting that works, then you've only got windows. You still have to install all the tools and productivity software. On any distribution, all that stuff gets installed as a matter of fact, and you're basically done after 20 minutes or so.

    [–] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

    In the case I'm referencing, I was installing Windows 11 for a five year old gaming computer using the Windows 10 upgrade software, no USB or anything like that.

    Technically I was going to use a custom USB made with Rufus to remove copilot, but by the time I got there they had already started the upgrade process. It really did take two hours, including the 15 minutes before I got there.