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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

When you look at annual statistics of dog bite fatalities, pit bulls aren't just the #1 cause of dog bite deaths, they account for more deaths than all dog breeds COMBINED.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 points 50 minutes ago

Repeat after me, correlation does not imply causation. Two things can be correlated without there being a cause/effect relationship.

What you're saying is essentially: Pitbull-like races are around 14% of large dogs, but are responsible for 55.9% of fatalities, i.e. more than all other combined. Therefore Pitbulls are dangerous.

I bet you would agree with that logic... Except those are not dog numbers, that's USA statistics on the African-American population. Congratulations on the racist argument.

Similarly to how there are multiple factors that explain the disparity for African-Americans there are also multiple factors at play for dogs, for example:

  • People commonly miss identify pit bulls
  • Assholes who abuse their dog tend to prefer breeds that are known for being aggressive. Abused dogs tend to react violently. Thus creating a cycle where dogs that are seen as aggressive are responsible for more aggressions.

I'm fairly confident that if you normalize for living conditions the numbers would not show any significant difference for breeds.

[–] guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I think this graphic should also be taking into account the number of owned dogs by breed, kinda like per capita. Because what if almost everyone owns pit bulls, and all the others are just outliers, then yeah, most attacks are by pit bulls because there’s more of them.

In my opinion, this would probably actually make pits look even worse, but it would actually be more representative of real data

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

Even if pit bulls are a minority of the population and the majority of attacks that doesn't mean they're aggressive, it shows there's a correlation, but not a causation link. Read my other reply, but in short, this is the same argument racists assholes use to say black people are aggressive, because they're a minority of the population but are the majority of homicide offenders.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

A lot of mixed breeds are labeled as “pit bulls” which can skew the data as well. There’s several different types of “pit bulls” like American Staffordshire Terrier.

And as another commenter pointed out, this graph is coming from a biased source.

[–] Elting@piefed.social 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

According to Wikipedia (I understand the irony here) dogsbite dot org has been accused of publishing misleading and inaccurate information. However, pit bulls are terriers and terriers don't let go when they bite. Most terriers are small ratting dogs where this doesn't matter so much.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

When I was bit by a pit, I was in a fight with his uh, human. The dude was being a dick. The dog looked at me, looked at his "owner" and then lunged at me. I put up my left arm to block my face, thats where he caught me, in my upper arm. The guy jumpped on the dog, started punching it in the head (this guy was a complete moron) and he wouldnt let go.

I played dead. It was isntict, I dont know. After what felt like enterity, I just, took out a deep sigh, pushed all the air from me, went limp. the dog let go, the guy whos dog it was threw him in the bathroom and locked him in there, and I went to the hospital.

[–] Elting@piefed.social 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

My neighbors had a pit that hated other dogs. My sister brought her dog over and it escaped the backyard and jumped through an empty screen door to attack her. I was right there on the porch though and got the dog by the collar. As soon as I got it away from my sister's dog, it was wagging tail and happy face. Pit bulls are capable of intense focus when they have identified "prey." Most dog owners are not equipped to deal with the reality of training a dog like that. Luckily I only got grazed in that altercation.

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world -4 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

But I whole heartedly believe that pit bulls by nature were meant to be farm dogs. And if you get one and raise them from birth in a good and loving home than bites won't happen. With this statistic did any owner say that yea I hurt my dog but only because he or she deserved it....etc etc etc. I didn't think so. No one man or animal is inherently mean. That is a learned behavior. And with all avenues of information getting to people and children is more likely going to be people who are mean. But born that way. Fuck No. Anyone feel free to prove me wrong for this discussion.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

It's pretty well known they were bred to be fighting dogs for blood sports. It doesn't mean they end up that way, but intervention is needed in places other breeds do not require it.

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

the fuck you mean "by nature"? man made dogs.

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

I think your thinking of hot dogs.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Speaking from experience. I adopted a pitbull about 10 years ago. Spent countless hours training it, sent it to a daycare to make sure it was socialized.

Strike 1 was when he got kicked out of the daycare for fighting. Strike 2 was when out of nowhere he bit my friends dog. Strike 3 was when he turned on my border collie and nearly killed her. She was the dog he grew up with and spent every single day with. I had to beat him with a grill spatula to get him to let go, and I was bitten in the process.

My observation with the breed was that they have an instinct built into them and when it triggers they become possessed and they lose all control. Humans don't usually trigger it, but other pets tend to.

[–] Lydon_Feen@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago

Truly one of the worst takes I have ever read. What you "believe" means nothing.

Pitbulls were bred to be as aggressive and strong as possible. They are literally attack dogs made for fighting.

It's a shit breed that should be made illegal, period.