Hi all, thanks in advance for indulging a complete newbie! I'd like to try Linux on an 11-year-old MacBook Pro (gifted by a relative), but I don't know where to start. What distribution would you recommend based on my background?
-Coming from the Mac world; haven't used a PC/Windows since before the pandemic. I'd prefer something that feels similar to MacOS.
-Not a techie. I've forgotten everything (everything!) I ever learned about command line because I never ended up needing to use it, and I haven't had to debug anything in a long time.
-What I'll be using it for: accessing the internet, various kinds of creative projects that I'll probably try making with FOSS software (something I've only recently started to look into), and making another attempt at learning programming (my interest will probably peter out before I get anywhere with it, though, because that's what happened the last two times). Probably won't be gaming. I'd prefer having the option to use mainstream office software in case anything happens to my current computer, but I don't actually expect anything to happen to it in the next few years, so that's just a nice-to-have.
-Priorities: works on old Mac hardware, good for privacy, decent software availability, not buggy, ability to avoid generative AI (i.e., no repeat of Apple installing the Image Playground app on my computer along with a software update, without the ability to remove it.)
It seems like a lot of people recommend Ubuntu or Linux Mint to beginners, but I'm seeing some people complaining that Ubuntu is has spyware(?) and forces things users don't want, and it seems like Linux Mint is usually recommended to people coming from Windows, so IDK if either of those make sense for me. Advice/recommendations appreciated!
Probably your best bet for something similar in vein to MacOS would be any distro that ships with GNOME. Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed all either ship explicitly with GNOME or have them as options within their live installers.
If you know which model and spec your Macbook is, I could give better compatibility insights. In short, the Broadcom chips used for Wi-Fi, Bluetooth in the 2014-2015 Macbooks used to be quite problematic for many Linux distros, but I do believe the in-tree
bcm43xxdriver in the kernel should handle them well enough nowadays. Depending on exact year and spec, your Macbook may come with an NVidia GPU, which will require additional post-installation steps to install the proprietary drivers on many distros. As it isn't the primary display device on those models, there shouldn't be too many issues in getting the cards to function and render offloading to work.Ubuntu discourse
Ubuntu is not really spyware as people may claim it to be. The main spyware claim comes from two sources: the 14 year old once-integration for Amazon services that Ubuntu shipped around the 12.10 point release and that Ubuntu does utilize more telemetry than other distros.
Often though, it's not a recommended distro anymore for many reasons. One primary one is that Ubuntu used to be seen as user-friendly and had a lot of community forum posts to document how to use it. Nowadays, most major distros have caught up and surpassed Ubuntu in usability and reliability, and Ubuntu's once-positive of forum posts largely tend to clog up being able to find useful information when a problem does occur because of how out-of-date many of those forum posts that still show up in search results are.
Another big reason is Ubuntu is not recommended is Canonical's (the company the makes Ubuntu) makes regular missteps and often falls on the wrong side of development for progress of the Linux desktop. See Unity desktop, Mir, Upstart, and the current misstep of Snaps. Canonical has also additionally put less effort into keeping that once-polished experience the Ubuntu desktop had and moved a lot of their effort into their server offerings. There have been relatively recent Ubuntu LTS desktop releases that have shipped with some baffling and often showstopping bugs that should have been release blockers. It's to a point where the QC of releases is often worse than what is found on 6-month point release and even many rolling release distros to where many don't recommend Ubuntu anymore.
2014-2015 Macbooks are/were problematic? Uh oh. The computer I'd be using is an early 2015 Macbook Pro Retina, 13". A1502.
Thanks for all the Ubuntu info! Yeah, that's not as concerning as I'd thought, but it still doesn't sound like the best choice for me. Based on a lot of the other comments here, I'll probably end up going with Fedora or Mint.
Adding to compatibility notes, it does seem that with the 2015 A1502's there won't be anything major in poor compatibility, beside the webcam not working out of the box. Found someone who documented their experience heavily tuning their Fedora install on their 2015 A1502. The author kitted out their Mac with a new SSD and better Wi-Fi card, which is worth mentioning. Some of the information is straight up helpful for even a standard A1502. Common stuff like installing the RPMFusion libva driver, EasyEffects equalizer presets, TLP are generally good ideas.
Mbpfan is also a good idea, but it looks like the package got dropped on 44 from a missing maintainer. May be recommended to install 43 for now if going with Fedora. I pulled the package source and built it on my computer, and it seems to work. Unfortunately I don't have an actual Macbook to test it on. I'll see about getting a COPR repo for it available soon, so that the package can be easily tested.
Some stuff, like disabling mitigations, throttled, and installing the FacetimeHD drivers are not stuff I'd really recommend. You can still go with any of these noting the caveats listed for each tweak. The FacetimeHD drivers are required for getting the webcam to work, so going through the hassle of getting those drivers to behave or just not having a built-in webcam is a choice to make.