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I still can't stop but think how stretched out the Hobbit films were, for an otherwise short book. That's a sin that stains forever with me. The Lord of the Rings films, do have their own flaws, but they're fairly contained and can be debated as to whether they were good or not. I have so much trouble excusing anything with the Hobbit though.

And I hope we never, ever see anyone tackle The Silmarillion. Simply because, there will be so much improvised fluff in that would-be film, that it'd make the Hobbit films blush.

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[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess a decade of slop media where nothing is sacred and everything must be exploited has hardened my heart from caring about anything anymore. A younger me cared about why the Star Wars sequels are bad or that they cancelled Firefly too quickly or that Community fired Dan Harmon. But all these properties are just tools of corpo oppression at this point. Art doesn't have the same impact if they are just trying to squeeze every last dollar out of them.

[–] thal3s@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Have you heard of dropout.tv?

It’s College Humor reborn under Sam Reich (the former Secretary of a Labor’s son) and it’s incredibly unique. They have a bunch of shows (go watch some Game Changer clips on YouTube) that are all hosted by and starring comedians and they profit share with all their talent, and their ToS service says you can share your account with anyone, etc.

They are very much the new media that is springing up while the old giants collapse.

If you’re at all interested in genuinely creative content, do yourself a favor and check them out.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago

thier the OG youtubers that adapted to the times, most other ytubers fade into irrelevance after a while, often times with the worst possible pivot like being maga, or zionist.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I firmly believe that there are real artists trying to say things and tell cool stories in these companies, and real shit does somehow sneak out on occasion (see Andor, perfectly imperfect jewel), but the utter financialization and commoditization of media means there's so many filters a work has to push through before it's allowed to survive. Like mass marketability etc — stuff that non artists make up to justify their salary.

PS not hating on non-artists (kind of don't believe the category exists, but as a role) it's just that when the share of people expecting to get paid from a work is mostly admin, marketing, logistics, rather than the people actually making the thing, incentives and culture get warped.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I loved the early internet, where people were doing art for arts sake and funslop for funslops sake.

Then there was a tiny tiny period where people started making money doing it, and I was young and naive enough to truly believe we could have a kind of content-utopia where creative types would flourish etc etc.

The trend-chasing algorithm-humping stifling any chance of financial success for creativity and inventiveness was pretty inevitable in hindsight, but still.

The feelings gone and we'll never get it back.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I loved the early internet, where people were doing art for arts sake and funslop for funslops sake.

I affectionately call this the "Peak Newgrounds Era."

Aside: Kudos that the place is still up and people are still embodying that spirit.

[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah tbh there's actually been a bit of a revival in the movie space ever since the Marvel universe had its final moment. Everything Everywhere All At Once is actually legitimately one of the best movies I've ever seen. One Battle After Another, Eddington, even smaller movies like Mickey 17. So clearly creativity isn't dead.

I never watched Andor, not because I don't think it's probably good, but because it probably didn't need the Star Wars license to be good. I've heard there anti capitalist themes in there and I just have a hard time seeing anti capitalist themes in mass market media as being genuine. It's like buying a Che Guevara shirt from Urban Outfitters.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 20 hours ago

It definitely transcends its IP, which is why I feel it snuck through. If it wasn't actually rock solid on top of being obviously subversive it would never have seen the light of day. It's basically a manual on the dos and don'ts of rebelling.