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The purpose of CIA Director John Ratcliffe's visit to Moscow this week was to warn Russia not to attack NATO member states, according to multiple people familiar with the matter, amid U.S. intelligence assessments that Russia could try to test NATO.

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[–] metermatic26@lemmy.world 68 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The last time a CIA director had direct talks with his Russian counterpart, it was to warn the Russians not to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. The last time before that, it was to warn the Russians not to invade Ukraine.

Russia is presumably behind the incidents in Leipzig and Rome earlier this month, which constitute direct attacks on NATO military assets and are a severe escalation of the conflict.

In addition Russia has placed ballistic missile launchers in Belarus, has started bombing the border crossing between Moldova and Ukraine, has started engaging in routine airspace violations into NATO territory, all while laying the political groundwork for a massive and forced mobilization.

It seems very reasonable that Ratcliffe’s visit is in response to either the recent attacks or new intelligence pointing to further escalation.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Is Russia even capable of a massive mobilization against NATO? They had to use NK soldiers in Ukraine.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Yes, with the operative word being mobilization

Russia would need to conscript soldiers, which they tried to do a few years ago to disastrous results -- public pushback forced them to walk it back

That's why they want NATO involved, it allows them to say mobilization is needed because NATO is threatening the homeland

It's a balancing act. They want to provoke NATO enough to sell the story of NATO threatening the homeland, but not so much that Russia actually has significant fighting against MATO

Putin feels he needs a military victory, and is taking increasingly large gambles to get it

Watch closely, because the US is following a similar path, just a few years behind

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Putin has to keep doubling down or he is done for.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Just like Trump.

The good news is that, if one goes, we'll very soon be rid of the other as well.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I was speaking online to a Russian acquaintance living in Germany, she said people do not understand that Russia will never give up...ever. She saw that as a badge of pride

[–] metermatic26@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Here’s the thing: Putin genuinely believes the West is hedonistic and degenerate. His view, which is enforced by the people around him, is that we will avoid war at all costs.

Putin’s logic therefore is that he doesn’t actually have to defeat NATO on the battlefield, but that he simply needs to scare and intimidate us enough for us to break cohesion and back down.

In other words, with every single month that goes by without the EU withdrawing their support, Putin will be tempted to escalate further, hoping with each new provocation that this will will finally be the one that breaks the West’s defiance.

This is laughable offcourse, as many EU countries are directly being threatened by Russia’s aggression and thus have a vested interest not just in defended themselves, but in having Russia choke itself on Ukraine.

In other words, yes Russia’s army can’t stand toe to toe with NATO but Putin’s misguided beliefs and strategic incompetence are nonetheless increasing the chances of this war spilling over into a full scale war between NATO and Russia.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

They were not capable of taking Ukraine in 3 days, but they still tried unfortunately. More important than what they can do, is what they think they can do. And more than that, is what they might want to/see as benefitial to do, whether it might succeed or not. And by "they" in this case, I really just mean Putin.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Had it not been for US, they might have taken Ukraine.

VDV getting annihilated at Hostomel airport is a direct result of US warning Ukraine that the Tank column was effectively a feint and that they needed to hold that airport at all costs.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Like Bibi and Trump, he's cooked as soon as he leaves office. Not that we'll see any direct benefit.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm capable of bitch slapping a cop it still doesn't make it a good idea.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 4 days ago

The massive part is what I was focusing on.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 4 points 4 days ago

That didn't and won't stop them from throwing people into the grinder and terrorise the civilians.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

massive mobilization

That's not how Russia fights NATO. It's done with "asymmetric tactics" -- terrorism, basically.

[–] ThePrimitive@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

The last time a CIA director had direct talks with his Russian counterpart, it was to warn the Russians not to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. The last time before that, it was to warn the Russians not to invade Ukraine.

Irrelevant. Both of those were when we didn't have a Russian puppet in office.

[–] Paradoxeuh@jlai.lu 6 points 4 days ago

Sadly, the CIA director doesn't seem to be super convincing so far...